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  1.   John Royal posted:
  02.05.2016 - 6:04 pm
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This is probably a 2016 Daytona 500 page.


  2.   88&4Fan posted:
  02.05.2016 - 6:40 pm
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I'd assume this is the Shootout page? Or the Daytona 500 already?


  3.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:12 pm
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Chase Elliott wins his first pole in his 6th start, best start before
was 16th at Richmond


  4.   Tyson posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:14 pm
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Has anyone else noticed that so far in practice and qualifying that
David Ragan has consistently been the slowest, by far, of the four BK
Racing cars? He's even been much slower than Robert Richardson, Jr. in a
one-off.


  5.   Tyson posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:16 pm
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Also, Kevin Harvick and Brian Vickers just had their times disallowed
for track bar infractions. Both drivers will now start at the back in
the Duels.


  6.   Windows Millennium Edition posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:19 pm
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@4 That's because Ragan isn't very good, plain and simple. BK Racing
really should've put someone like Reed Sorenson in the car full time.


  7.   1995z71 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:19 pm
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Ryan Blaney & Matt DiBenedetto locked themselves into the Daytona 500
via qualifying speeds.

Martin Truex had an issue with the roof flap & could not qualify.


  8.   Anonymous posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:21 pm
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David Ragan is easily the most talented driver BK Racing has ever fielded.


  9.   Blue Palaski posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:23 pm
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^ Well he's the most accomplished anyway.


  10.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:23 pm
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Landon Cassill says hi.


  11.   Chives5150 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:24 pm
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Daytona qualifying inspection shenanigans continue!


  12.   Michael Waltrip posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:25 pm
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I got some jet fuel if any of you fine fellas want to borrow some?


  13.   Windows Millennium Edition posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:25 pm
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@8 I disagree. I think without a doubt that David Reutimann, Landon
Cassill, and Alex Bowman are more talented than Ragan might ever be.


  14.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:28 pm
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This is not the first time Hendrick's 24 and Gibb's 20 are on the front
row. It also happened in 1999 with Gordon and Stewart.


  15.   TS1420 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:34 pm
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Oh my god!
Pole was fixed again! /s


  16.   Tyson posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:50 pm
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@8 - wins don't necessarily equate talent level. The guy couldn't even
get a top-10 in MWR equipment and got one in the championship car last
season.


  17.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 4:53 pm
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If the Unlimited was a preview of this, then we'll be in for a very good
race.


  18.   Tide1732 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:08 pm
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My 4 predictions to win the 2016 Daytona 500

Kyle Busch
Jimmie Johnson
Ryan Blaney
Denny Hamilin


  19.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:16 pm
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And Ragan looks the best of the BK drivers because he's had the best
equipment through his career. Otherwise his results are average at best.


  20.   23andJoe posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:24 pm
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And says NASCAR, purse winnings will no longer be reported, due to it
"not being contemporary" and being "misleading" because "the purse goes
to the team, not to the driver".

#NASCART


  21.   C posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:26 pm
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It's a bit weird how dale won it in 2011 10th anniversary Dillon eon it
the first time the three was back Danica won it in her rookie year
Gordon won it in his info a year and now Elliott wins it


  22.   David posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:27 pm
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For the scorecard, the #4 and #14 teams' times have been disallowed,
both with track bar issues. I wouldn't expect any further penalties.


  23.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:30 pm
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To Ragan defense his qualifying time doesnt really mean anything when he
is already locked in the field vs Dibennedetto and Richardson who had to
focus on single car speed more.


  24.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:31 pm
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And Reed Sorenson was way off wow but he's a sleeper in the duel.


  25.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:36 pm
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Not sure about David Reutimann, but Landon Cassill and Alex Bowman, like
Cole Whitt are better than David Ragan. He deserves terrible equipment.
Reutimann is no longer active and the others I named are better drivers
than David Ragan. He's no good.


  26.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:43 pm
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John Royal was right. Go John!


  27.   Anonymous posted:
  02.14.2016 - 5:55 pm
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1st 500 since 1998 i wont be too bothered who does what with tony injured


  28.   Blah Blah posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:17 pm
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Racegurl saying Ragan sucks when she consistently says Bayne is great,
and he had 32nd fastest time (after 2 penalties), and one of his
teammates was 5th! And 2 of those BVK cars were faster, and a FRM car,
and the 32 was faster..Yea..Ragan might not be great, but he's still
better than Bayne..And anyways, qualifying doesn't really mean shit
anyways..


  29.   Windows Millennium Edition posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:21 pm
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@18 Tide, I think that's the most intelligent thing you've ever posted
here.


  30.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:27 pm
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Ragan has been called David Wreck'em. If a driver wrecks that much in a
car like the Roush cars of Ragan's Roush days, he's definitely not great.


  31.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:29 pm
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It doesn't matter if you're driving for Hendrick or Premium, a wreck is
still a wreck.


  32.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:32 pm
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28, Bayne practiced better than Ragan, according to RaceTrax. Bayne was
12th and 21st, while Ragan was 38th and 40th. Ragan's numbers are sucky
and Bayne's are semi-decent and mid-pack, respectively.


  33.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:35 pm
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On Chase, Hendrick is one of the best teams, along with Penske and
Gibbs. I don't want to say it was rigged due to the Hendrick thing
(Hendrick and Penske being teams to watch) and my ...um... history.


  34.   Vince McMahon posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:48 pm
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Last 4 Daytona 500 pole winners
2013 Patrick in her first full season (only career pole thus far)
2014 Dillon in the 3's first race since Dale died (only career pole thus
far)
2015 Gordon in his final Daytona 500
2016 Elliott in his first 500 replacing Gordon who will be calling the
race in the booth


  35.   Blah Blah posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:51 pm
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Bayne still sucks though..That's the point I'm trying to say..You're
comparing BKs cars to Ragan when Ricky put a RFR in 5th, and Bayne was
32nd..

And I'd bet that if Ragan was put in a Roush car now, he's still outrun
Bayne..


  36.   Blah Blah posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:52 pm
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And I NEVER said Ragan was GREAT. You're just making stuff up..


  37.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:53 pm
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36, you said Ragan was not great and I was providing some evidence he's
not.


  38.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:54 pm
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Never thought I'd defend racefangurl when it comes to Trevor Bayne, but
this guy is an obvious troll. Probably the same idiot whos been thumbing
down every single one of mine and Windows Millenium Editions comments on
this page.


  39.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 6:58 pm
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38, I didn't say anything about Bayne in post 25, but Blah Blah troll
made me bring him up. Qualifying doesn't mean anything except setting
the Duels lineup this time, anyway.


  40.   Sector posted:
  02.14.2016 - 7:11 pm
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Chase Elliott becomes the youngest Daytona 500 pole winner. This marks
the first points Cup race since 1992 without Jeff Gordon. This will be
Jeff Gordon's debut in the booth as well following the Sprint Unlimited.

Tony Stewart got injured during the off-season, so Brian Vickers was
cleared to take over the #14 car for this race.


  41.   Blah Blah posted:
  02.14.2016 - 7:14 pm
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I said qualifying didn't matter before, but you were the one originally
that was making fun of QUALIFYING times..Then say it doesn't matter when
it comes to Bayne..That just shows what a clueless idiot you are..

And I'm far from a troll..I don't even up or down voted a damn thing,
cause it's pretty stupid idea when anyone can up or down vote for no
reason..So stop being an idiot coming up with that crap..

I'm proving to you racegurl that Bayne isn't great, yet you still think
he's good..You can't have it both ways..You make excuses for Bayne, yet
when the same can be said for someone else, you say it's different..


  42.   Blah Blah posted:
  02.14.2016 - 7:18 pm
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And BTW, I am a Ragan fan, but I'm also a fan of Bayne..But I'm not
clueless to think either has been great in Cup..I tell the truth..


  43.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.14.2016 - 7:33 pm
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Im a Bayne fan to but honestly racefangurl we can't make excuses for him
anymore. And as far as Ragan goes he's just doing what JJ Yeley did last
year and is basically just collecting paychecks Ragan is done. Outside
of the 4 plate races he will be invisible all season long.


  44.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 7:40 pm
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My cents on this, I think DiBenedetto is better then Ragan.


  45.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 7:43 pm
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"Probably the same idiot who is thumbing down every single one of my
mine and Windows Millenium Edition's comments on this page."

You two are the only ones getting downvoted because you two are the only
ones reacting to it. The saying is called "Don't feed the trolls" for a
reason.


  46.   #8Truck#1 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 7:46 pm
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Matt used a TRD engine in the car for qualifying and for the duels
Thursday, will switch back to the crappy Triad engine for the 500.
Explains him being that much faster. Smart choice to make sure he had a
better shot at making it, which thankfully it did. I'm sure Waltrip did
too, though not 100% sure.


  47.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 7:49 pm
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Matt will still be better then Ragan this year.


  48.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 7:53 pm
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41, I wasn't making fun of qualifying times today. I said how Ragan and
Bayne did in practice yesterday.


  49.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 8:04 pm
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43, so no bringing up MS, being a daddy or adjusting to his new crew
chief after this? But his 500 win in 2011 wasn't a fluke IMO, since he
was fast all Speedweeks that year. I guess I should just put him in with
somebody like Mikey Waltrip, Jamie McMurray or perhaps Jr.


  50.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 8:05 pm
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Btw, Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR), which of the other 500 winners
would you compare Bayne to, if any?


  51.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 8:09 pm
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McMurray shouldn't be in the same category as Waltrip because Jamie has
3 non-plate Cup wins.


  52.   JJ24 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 8:11 pm
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Lol NASCAR always fixes the qualifying for the 500, I love Chase Elliott
but is so obvious it was fixed along with Gordon winning it last year,
Dillon winning it the year the 3 came back and when Danica won it.


  53.   Anonymous posted:
  02.14.2016 - 8:18 pm
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"which of the other 500 winners would you compare Bayne to, if any?"
Derrike Cope


  54.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.14.2016 - 8:20 pm
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"I guess I should just put (Bayne) in with somebody like Mikey Waltrip,
Jamie McMurray or perhaps Jr."

The only one of those three that is even close to a good comparison is
Waltrip.


  55.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 8:34 pm
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My top 500 win picks are Dale Earnhardt, Jr. Joey Logano, Matt Kenseth
and Chase Elliott. Their teammates and the plate aces follow. The
uncategorized, followed by surprise winners and sleepers round out my list.


  56.   Captain51 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 8:56 pm
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When do we make our picks for the fantasy nascar on here? I'm new to it
and I didn't want to miss the deadline!


  57.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 8:58 pm
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It's under fantasy related blog entries at the very bottom of the home
page.


  58.   typo posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:03 pm
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hi all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! racin season is back
and better than ever na$car style boyz. But in all seriousness, I wish
ever NASCAR race was as entertaining and the sprint unlimited. I haven't
checked the comments to see if it was looked down upon but I though it
was pretty good. Wish NASCAR racing had crazy racing like that (Not the
cautions/crashes, but the split second saves and routes. Very fun to
watch). Also damn the racefangurl always say the stupidest red neck shit
ever? Sorry to seem like a jerk but man.


  59.   Sector posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:03 pm
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How about we all just agree that both David Ragan and Trevor Bayne are
winners and move on with our lives?


  60.   typo posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:05 pm
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  61.   typo posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:06 pm
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Shucks, that was supposed to be Homer Simpson but it glitched out. Oh well


  62.   typo posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:07 pm
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lesson leaned, never post symbols on racing reference


  63.   typo posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:07 pm
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and never post too many comments


  64.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:19 pm
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This is the first Cup race since Phoenix back in 1992, 797 races ago,
that Jeff Gordon is not entered for.


  65.   David posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:45 pm
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I was a bit confused on how they determined who was in which Duel race
on Thursday, but I think I got it: they took the charter teams in order
of their qualifying results and alternated them between the two Duels,
before doing the same with the Open teams. Then they merely lined them
up based on speed.


  66.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:48 pm
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The K&N race at New Syrma ran an extra lap because the flagman forgot to
wave the right flag.


  67.   Donald Trump posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:56 pm
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You're fired.


  68.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:57 pm
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Racefangurl if I had to compare bayne to a former 500 winner it would
probably be Ward Burton at the moment.


  69.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 9:58 pm
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Well...that was some interesting circumstances.


  70.   Windows Millennium Edition posted:
  02.14.2016 - 10:26 pm
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My updated picks to miss the race now:

Gilliland
Whitt
Wise
Richardson, Jr.


  71.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 10:36 pm
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My miss picks are Gilliland, McDowell, Wise and Richardson, Jr.


  72.   Blue Palaski posted:
  02.14.2016 - 11:08 pm
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Derrike Cope is a little harsh, I think Pete Hamilton is a better
comparison. I mean Pete never got the top equipment at Petty, like
Trevor doesn't get the top equipment at Roush. While Cope has been a
single driver in pretty much his whole career, so he always got the top
stuff.


  73.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.14.2016 - 11:18 pm
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Trolling, bickering, glitches, and Donald Trump: already this comment
section has turned into a shitfest.

Let's clear this all up here: the pole was not rigged for Chase, Trevor
Bayne is not very good, don't copy-and-paste stuff from Word to the
comments box, people seriously need to shut up about the
thumbs-up/thumbs-down system, and Donald Trump is a terrible human being.

That should take care of it.


  74.   TYopo posted:
  02.14.2016 - 11:19 pm
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yall are harsh 3 dislikes and no likes? so some passion


  75.   racefangirl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 11:24 pm
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hey all I now know how to spell girl time to turn a new page


  76.   racefangurl posted:
  02.14.2016 - 11:25 pm
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JK


  77.   BK#23#93 posted:
  02.14.2016 - 11:39 pm
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I'm going with the #59 and #35 to make it in. Hard to judge anything
without any drafting so far really though. the #30 and #40 could
surprise us and be fast lol. The #26 and #98 will likely be close
though, but you never know.


  78.   Tyson posted:
  02.14.2016 - 11:46 pm
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I'm going with the #59 and #26 to make it. I think Blaney and
DiBenedetto will be the best finishers of the open cars in their Duel
race, which would mean McDowell and Richardson could fall back on their
speed to make the race.


  79.   Chives5150 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 12:19 am
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I don't know about Sorenson. He was complaining about something being
seriously wrong during his lap, possibly the front end. They have time
to find some speed, but they sure need a lot of it, and some luck as well.


  80.   Scott B posted:
  02.15.2016 - 12:21 am
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The #40's qualifying speed was so bad I don't think Sorenson will even
be able to hold the draft. No repeat of last year's miracle Duel for him.


  81.   racefangurl posted:
  02.15.2016 - 12:28 am
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75-76=troll


  82.   David posted:
  02.15.2016 - 1:11 am
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"Let's clear this all up here: the pole was not rigged for Chase, Trevor
Bayne is not very good, don't copy-and-paste stuff from Word to the
comments box, people seriously need to shut up about the
thumbs-up/thumbs-down system, and Donald Trump is a terrible human being."

Yep, yep, yep, yep, and yep.

Get a hold of yourselves, people. I stopped rating comments long ago
because of lunacy like this.


  83.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 1:26 am
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I absolutely think the 59 will make the 500, McDowell put up a very fast
qualifying time. As for the 4th transfer, it's a little unclear but I'm
going to say Richardson. However that could all change if something
major happens in the duels.


  84.   murb posted:
  02.15.2016 - 1:36 am
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"While Cope has been a single driver in pretty much his whole career, so
he always got the top stuff."

He got "top stuff" in terms of, yeah, he very often drove for a single
car team and thus had full organizational effort behind him, but I
wouldn't call ANY of his rides in Cup "top stuff" in terms of how
actually good the equipment/team was. I mean, his three best rides were
probably the Whitcomb #10 (that he won both of his two Cup races in -
but other than those two wins they looked to be about only a top 15 team
at their very best), the Bobby Allison #12 (which was never good at all
in the 90s), and the #36 MB2 car (before they turned into a respectable
second or third tier effort with Irvan/Schrader/Benson later on down the
line). So yeah, he never had to cow tow to teammates when it came to
equipment, but none of those rides were good at all, so I don't think
you can hold that against him (not saying you are or aren't - in fact,
I'd actually probably agree with you that Pete Hamilton might be a
better Daytona 500 winner comparison for Bayne rather than Cope).

I also wouldn't say that Bayne is getting "top stuff" right now with
Roush either, but just from looking at how he looked last year (yeah,
they had/have bad equipment, but he looked REALLY bad - even Stenhouse
and a dinosaur Biffle looked respectable at times last year in those
cars) and how "meh" he looked in years previous in both NXS and the Wood
Brothers #21, I'm afraid I have to agree with Long Shot. As much as I
like Trevor personally, I'm just not sure he's all that good. He's
actually probably a better racer than many (myself included) give him
credit for (meaning he usually doesn't tear stuff up and for the most
part keeps a level head), but talent wise, I've basically given up on
him being anything other than another David Ragan or Michael Waltrip.


  85.   murb posted:
  02.15.2016 - 1:38 am
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"cow tow"

Seriously, auto correct?


  86.   You Know Who I Am posted:
  02.15.2016 - 1:50 am
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You know, shit like what has been happening here today is why all the
intelligent posters aren't here anymore. Thumbs down trolls, people
feeding the thumbs down trolls, people spreading false information,
people posting under different names, and then you have people like
racefangurl who belong in a whole different category of stupid. I
remember when this place used to be filled with intelligent posters who
brought insight to the conversation. Now it's no better than a Youtube
comments section.


  87.   Talon64 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 2:05 am
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Please, I was never intelligent.

I'll actually add something and say that I don't see much point in them
having the qualifying Duels anymore, with the Daytona 500 entry list
shrinking each and every year and the charter system just escalating
that trend. So there isn't really much to race for for the teams that
matter, the ones trying to make the field.

I'm actually surprised there were even 44 cars. Thank you Michael
Waltrip for paying for the 83's charter for a race and forcing Matty DiB
to have to qualify his way in (which he did, thankfully).


  88.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 2:43 am
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@87 I think the two duels, while they don't have much purpose anymore,
could still be fun exhibitions races like the Clash.

And although I'm newer here, I thought the site was getting better in
November when everyone seemed to return but the offseason "discussions"
consisted of people arguing with a brick wall which most likely made
everyone's IQ drop.


  89.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.15.2016 - 3:17 am
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Yeah it did improve for a while at the end of last year, but judging by
these comments right now... I'd say we have some work to do. Although
I'll say its not as bad as the first comments on the Daytona 500 page
two years ago (which thankfully I wasn't a part of).


  90.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.15.2016 - 3:38 am
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For who makes the Daytona 500, I think Michael McDowell and Reed
Sorenson race their way in through the duels.


  91.   Blue Palaski posted:
  02.15.2016 - 8:33 am
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Yes, that is exactly what I meant murb. Cope never had the A+ stuff, but
he was getting the full effort of his team.


  92.   Speed_Demon posted:
  02.15.2016 - 8:38 am
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I can't help but think that having MS has held Trevor back somewhat.


  93.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.15.2016 - 8:50 am
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I'm pretty sure everyone on here has been a NASCAR fan for a little
while so we should apply common sense a little more and know that when
it comes to qualifying at Daytona it's all car and engine not driver so
the criticism of bayne and Ragan's qualifying position is pointless at
the moment the other Bk cars are on a different agenda and probably
stenhouse's team is trying something wildly different than the
#6,#16,#34,#35,#38 who all now have the same equipment.


  94.   Scott25 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 9:00 am
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It's really beyond my comprehension that anyone can view pole qualifying
over the past 4 years as anything other than a publicity stunt. NASCAR
understands that they can build 4 days worth of hype before the duels
and a week's worth before the 500 if the best story that particular
year, the one that will appeal to new/uber-casual fans who might not
have watched the 500, wins the pole. Danica and
Dillon1bringing-back-the-3 were miles more obvious than
Gordon-in-his-final-year and
Elliott-rookie-taking-over-the-legends-ride, who both could've won it on
merit in the 24. But still, it doesn't count for anything really other
than locking the pole sitter into the Shootout, so it's a pretty
harmless and cheap way to build publicity and hype amongst the media.
All it takes is a marginally larger restrictor plate or something they
take away when Sunday's over and everything is restored to normal by
Thursday when actual racing starts.


  95.   426hemi posted:
  02.15.2016 - 9:46 am
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Watched a few minutes of qualifying(pro wrestling). Congratulations to
Chase Elliott for making it 4 years in a row the biggest headline going
into the biggest race of the year wins the pole at Daytona (champion's
belt)


  96.   Cornys posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:00 am
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John Cena is leading the field to green in the pace car.


  97.   Cornys posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:03 am
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The driver has something to do with qualifying at Daytona, but not very
much. Smooth hands are needed to keep the momentum up. Especially in
single car runs.


  98.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:08 am
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On another note, I'm a bit surprised Gilstrap hasn't had something to
say about this Title IX stuff..


  99.   Anonymous posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:11 am
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"You know, shit like what has been happening here today is why all the
intelligent posters aren't here anymore. Thumbs down trolls, people
feeding the thumbs down trolls, people spreading false information,
people posting under different names, and then you have people like
racefangurl who belong in a whole different category of stupid. I
remember when this place used to be filled with intelligent posters who
brought insight to the conversation. Now it's no better than a Youtube
comments section."

Hi DSFF


  100.   Vince McMahon posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:25 am
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94 - Accepting that something as ultimately meaningless as the Daytona
500 pole winner could be fixed raises the question of what else has
NASCAR fixed? People who invest so much time and money following the
sport simply don't want to hear what they think is pure and honest
competition is in fact not. I don't think NASCAR is the only North
American sport manipulating outcomes - the big four certainly do so to
varying degrees (the NBA and NFL particularly) - but I think NASCAR's
various manipulations are the most blatantly obvious.

Let's face it. If Tony Stewart decided the 2017 Daytona 500 will be his
final race and he won the pole - making it five years in a row the
biggest story won the pole - the same people scoffing now ("It wasn't
fixed because it wasn't fixed") will be scoffing then.


  101.   BK#23#93 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:26 am
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Post #93, pretty much spot on..


  102.   numbah10hatah posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:27 am
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That moment when you realize Danica Patrick was slower than 2 Leavine
Family Racing cars, 2 BK Racing cars, and Chris Buescher.


  103.   numbah10hatah posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:28 am
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Also, I felt SO BAD for Casey Mears. He missed going to round 2 by .001
seconds. Damn JoLo...


  104.   Anonymous posted:
  02.15.2016 - 12:09 pm
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When the quality of NASCAR goes down, the quality of Racing Reference
goes down.


  105.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 2:36 pm
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So far here is the current unemployed list for this season:

-Brett Moffitt
-Sam Hornish, Jr.
-J.J. Yeley

I'm not surprised about Hornish; after his disappointing tenure with
RPM, I knew he wouldn't be in Cup. Probably would have been best to stay
in NXS.

I'm surprised that Yeley found nothing in Xfinity, he was respectable in
the 28. But from what I heard, it sounded like he didn't really put much
effort at BK Racing.

I am shocked about Moffitt however. Reigning ROY, did decent for being
rushed into Cup because of no other rides, but now he has nothing.
Definitely a shocker.



  106.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.15.2016 - 4:03 pm
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Usually the entry lists for the Xfinity and truck races are out by
now... wonder whats taking so long.


  107.   Tyson posted:
  02.15.2016 - 4:29 pm
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I'm assuming because it's a holiday in the States. NASCAR usually
doesn't put it out entry lists on the Monday of a long weekend.


  108.   Against Charters posted:
  02.15.2016 - 7:45 pm
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Extremely happy the wood brothers left that RTA crap


  109.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 8:16 pm
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Also, what does everyone think about the new NASCAR Pinty's Series logo?


  110.   Stan posted:
  02.15.2016 - 8:20 pm
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My picks to make the Duels are Michael McDowell and David Gilliland.


  111.   Windows Millennium Edition posted:
  02.15.2016 - 8:41 pm
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I know this isn't NASCAR related, but does anyone else here watch
"Gravity Falls"?


  112.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.15.2016 - 8:49 pm
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I did, good finale. Shame to see it end but they picked a good time to
punch out.


  113.   Anonymous posted:
  02.15.2016 - 8:52 pm
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'I know this isn't NASCAR related, but does anyone else here watch
"Gravity Falls"?'

And this, folks, is why this site is going downhill.


  114.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.15.2016 - 9:17 pm
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"And this, folks, is why this site is going downhill."

Could not be more wrong. Read any comment section from 2012 or 2013.
Especially the Homestead race pages which go through the entire
offseason. Very often the subject would turn to video games, other
sports besides racing, and even, yes, movies and TV shows. And nobody
complained about it.

Windows, to answer your question, sorry no I have not.


  115.   jabber1990 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 9:28 pm
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we even had a small political discussion a few times, and we were all
respectable of each others views.


  116.   Windows Millennium Edition posted:
  02.15.2016 - 9:29 pm
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@113 Why exactly is the site going downhill because of this? I asked one
simple question not related to NASCAR, but I get bombarded for it by Mr.
Blah Blah, the King of logic? Might I remind you that there have been
many other instances on this site that include this happening, so if you
think the site is going downhill because of this, then the site must've
went downhill over about two years ago when this was very common.


  117.   Archie posted:
  02.15.2016 - 9:38 pm
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I don't post very often, but I think it's great that off topic
discussions are permitted on this site. Sometimes there isn't much else
to talk about, if the subject always has to be racing.


  118.   Minnowfur posted:
  02.15.2016 - 10:27 pm
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My top 10 bold predictions for the Daytona 500

1. The 17 car gets loose while running 5th and causes the big crash
2.2 big crashs happening involveing 20 cars and 10 cars
3. 11,88 and 22 lead most of the race
4. 13 car,27 car and 21 car battle for the win late
5.Last lap crash
6.4 car blows a engine
7.14 car gets a solid finish along with the 7 car
8.Last lap pass for the win
9.18 car gets a speeding penlty
10.2 car wins


  119.   Anonymous posted:
  02.15.2016 - 10:56 pm
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Does the 4 car blow a engine by itself, or is there a driver in the car
with a name? I hope everyone is okay in those big crashs.


  120.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:01 pm
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Folks, I think we may have found a comment with as many grammar mistakes
as the "god list i have one ass well" guy.


  121.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:39 pm
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Come on, we were just discussing a ton of football this offseason. And
nobody cared.


  122.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.15.2016 - 11:43 pm
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I had no problem with the football talk or the video game talk this past
off season actually liked it. And besides trolls I still see a lot of
great posters on this site.


  123.   racefangurl posted:
  02.16.2016 - 12:32 am
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93, I'm guessing based on what you say the teams are experimenting with
engines and setups or at least were Sunday. Let's see how practice and
the Duels go. Let's wait until race day to call anything, in fact.


  124.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.16.2016 - 1:07 am
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"Come on, we were just discussing a ton of football this offseason. And
nobody cared."

Except that every single football related comment would get
you-know-whatted.


  125.   John Royal posted:
  02.16.2016 - 7:47 am
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I don't really like the football discussion as I am from Europe and I
have no clue how that sport functions.


  126.   Speed_Demon posted:
  02.16.2016 - 8:34 am
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It's like soccer for your hands, except a lot less passing and tackling
doesn't result in a penalty.


  127.   Opie posted:
  02.16.2016 - 8:39 am
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113 -....and no-one got the joke. Gravity Falls, Downhill, get it?


  128.   markjeff531 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 9:34 am
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to those you complain about NASCAR everyday and say NASCAR is losing so
many fans, just remember, the 2016 Daytona 500 is Sold Out!!


  129.   Windows Millennium Edition posted:
  02.16.2016 - 9:43 am
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My predictions (from playing NR2003):

1. Paul Menard starts the big one midrace, taking out 22 cars, including
most of the good cars

2. Brian Scott, Aric Almirola, Chase Elliott, and Joey Logano retire
from engine failures

3. Dale Earnhardt Jr. leads the most laps

4. Kevin Harvick starts the second big one at lap 184, taking out 7 cars

5. The final top 10 (in order)

Jamie McMurray
Austin Dillon
Ryan Newman
Jimmie Johnson
David Ragan
Chris Buescher
Michael Annett
Casey Mears
Matt DiBenedetto
Landon Cassill


  130.   BK#23#93 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 9:53 am
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I like that top 10!! lol


  131.   52 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 9:58 am
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So you're saying that is you decrease seating capacity by half, then you
can sell out an event? Amazing!!!


  132.   Sam posted:
  02.16.2016 - 10:40 am
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Daytona 500 predictions

Dale Jr starts the big one Jimmie Johnson flips for the first time in
his career takes out 20 cars

Then Landon Cassill blows an engine so does Aric Almirola

Then with 3 laps to go Another wreck happens this one caused by Ty
Dillon takes out 7 cars

Then Austin Dillon takes the 3 car back to victory lane in the Daytona 500

Top 10
1.Austin Dillon
2. chase Elliott
3. Ryan Newman
4. Kevin Harvick
5. Chris Buescher
6. Jamie Mac
7. Kyle Busch
8. Trevor Bayne
9. David Ragan
10. Casey Mears


  133.   David posted:
  02.16.2016 - 11:15 am
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"113 -....and no-one got the joke. Gravity Falls, Downhill, get it?"

You sly dog.

*nods approvingly*


  134.   Tyson posted:
  02.16.2016 - 11:36 am
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@131 - 101,000 at the Daytona 500 > 70,000 at the Super Bowl. Just saying...

Who cares that they cut seat capacity? Still one of the highest selling
sporting events out there.


  135.   Chives5150 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 11:43 am
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Love the old school pit road finish line driver photos.


  136.   52 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 12:59 pm
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Poor comparison with the super bowl. They sell as many $2500 face value
tickets as possible. Ie over 100k at cowboys stadium a few years back.
So would it have been better if say, rockingham cut out a third of their
capacity so they could sell out? The sports marquee event shouldn't have
to decrease capacity if the sport is healthy.


  137.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.16.2016 - 12:59 pm
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Since everyone else is doing them, here are my Daytona 500 predictions
that make absolutely no sense whatsoever:

- A meteor falls on the track and hits Kevin Harvicks car
- Kurt Busch's ex shows up and randomly starts shooting at cars, which
causes the big wreck
- The ghost of Dale Earnhardt guides Junior through the big wreck, but
then his day ends when he hits a seagull
- Jeff Gordon announces from the booth that he's coming out of
retirement to drive for Premium Motorsports

And the most bizarre prediction that has no chance of ever happening...
- Danica wins


  138.   Tyson posted:
  02.16.2016 - 1:14 pm
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Yeah and how many average folk are buying those $2500 Super Bowl
tickets? I'm gonna go with not many...

They cut grandstand seating so that they could make some improvements
for the fans and ultimately make fan experience better, but of course,
that won't stop some people from being nit picky and bitching about
nothing.


  139.   52 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 1:57 pm
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What is the basis of average people. I just said the SB brings in
captivity crowds at whatever venue with people paying thousands of $ per
seat. You said the 500 brings in more people, but most tix less than
$100. Simple supply and demand. Why was it always sold out 10 years ago,
and now they can't sell out without cutting capacity? I'm not a bitter
fan, I just feel a little more alienated each year. The sport continues
to push the old school fans away, like me.

I just get upset when I think of rockingham (or even wilkesboro) losing
their events because they couldn't sell out. Now that it's down
everywhere, they say the TV revenue is the most important, and its
decreasing. I want the sport to go back to its roots and build back to
what it was.


  140.   52 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 2:04 pm
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Oops, I meant capacity, not captivity. Sorry giant hands, little phone.
Haha


  141.   jabber1990 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 2:30 pm
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rule 3 of this site: "don't joke about something happening to Harvick"
why? because we're usually right


  142.   Spen posted:
  02.16.2016 - 2:57 pm
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Backing up the talk to Derrike Cope for a second, I disagree with
whoever said that Bobby Allison's team was never good in the '90's. When
Jimmy Spencer, Cope and Hut Stricklin all have their career best seasons
with a team, it must be pretty decent. Plus, they had Jimmy Fennig as a
crew chief. The team did have sponsorship issues now and again, but
overall, they seemed like a solid team that could have done great things
if they had gotten a better driver at the get-go.

Plus, Cope had Buddy Parrott while at Whitcomb's team. So while he never
had a top-dollar ride, he did have multiple HOF worthy crew chiefs,
which is more than someone like Michael Walt rip can say.


  143.   HJ10 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 3:24 pm
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Why haven't the xfinity and truck series entry lists been released yet?


  144.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 3:26 pm
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I bet NASCAR will hide that as well. They seem to hide a lot of things
these days.


  145.   Anonymous posted:
  02.16.2016 - 3:43 pm
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Comment #2: nine thumbs down for wondering what page this was. Lets stay
classy here.


  146.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.16.2016 - 3:44 pm
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They can't hide it for very long, because we're eventually going to find
out anyway when practice, qualifying, etc. happen. So I really don't see
the point of hiding this stuff. But then again... thats NASCAR logic for
you.


  147.   Matt L posted:
  02.16.2016 - 4:51 pm
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It's very bizarre. Last years's Xfinity entry list was released on a
Monday. Info is very tightly controlled this season.


  148.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 5:01 pm
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I think the RTA might have something to with it. Considering we no
longer see the prize money, I have a feeling that a lot of stuff is
going to be top secret this year.


  149.   Tyson posted:
  02.16.2016 - 5:13 pm
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The RTA has no authority over the XFINITY and Truck Series. NASCAR said
the entry list will be released "soon." It is really weird (and
annoying) that they haven't released them yet.


  150.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.16.2016 - 6:03 pm
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This is really starting to piss me off now. Yesterday I gave the benefit
of the doubt because a lot of times they don't release the entry list on
a holiday, but when that happens its always out by around 4:00 on
Tuesday. Really can't help but think the RTA is behind this.


  151.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.16.2016 - 8:02 pm
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Idk if the RTA is holding the entry list hostage. I mean they could be
holding back the entry list because of how many deals came together late
example Ben Kennedy's deal and Jeb Burton's deal. If I'm not mistaken
NASCAR once had a rule that a team had to be on the official entry list
3 weeks before the event so they wouldnt get the post entry penalty so
maybe NASCAR backed up releasing the entry list so teams wouldn't get
penalized for Post Entry.


  152.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 8:25 pm
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Bob Pockrass on Twitter said he expects to see the entry list for both
series tomorrow.


  153.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 8:42 pm
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And going to the Super Bowl vs. Daytona 500 debate, we've all said that
NASCAR and stick and ball sports aren't comparable, right? Therefore, I
don't think the two events are comparable at all. Different sized
arenas, different prices, different home teams, etc.


  154.   racefangurl posted:
  02.16.2016 - 8:50 pm
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151, it's hard to know. Maybe the RTA held the entry lists back because
of the late deals. Just guessing.


  155.   Captain51 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 9:11 pm
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I see a big deal being made about the entry lists for the Xfinity and
Trucks not being released yet. Could someone explain why it's such a big
deal?


  156.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 9:37 pm
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I think it's more confusion as to why they haven't been released as they
usually are by now. It's probably late entries though.


  157.   Stan posted:
  02.16.2016 - 10:15 pm
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A couple things came to mind a few moments ago.

1. I believe that Mike Skinner is probably one of the best (from
1997-2003) to have never won a points-paying race. If there was a top 5
(or 10) of current/former Cup drivers, besides Mike Skinner, who else
would be on this list?

Best example I can come up with is Kyle Larson. He's had some great runs
in his first two years as a Cupper, but needs to be more consistent
throughout the whole season. I feel he's gonna visit victory lane this year.


2. I wonder how Kenny Irwin Jr. and Adam Petty's Cup careers would have
progressed if neither had their fatal crashes at New Hampshire. I never
got to see either race, but I did at one point have a Kenny Irwin Jr.
diecast car. (His BellSouth one)




  158.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.16.2016 - 10:41 pm
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1. Joe Ruttman
2. GC Spencer
3. Neil Castles
4. Cecil Gordon
5. JD McDuffie
6. John Sears
7. Ted Musgrave
8. Jimmie Lewallen
9. Tommy Irwin
10. Rick Mast


  159.   Evan posted:
  02.16.2016 - 10:54 pm
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I could see Adam Petty winning some races if he ever could have gotten
away from Petty Enterprises, they did build the team around him and they
had a plan in place for Adam to race in the 2001 Daytona 500. But I
still believe he would have won some races, just not with Petty
Enterprises, judging by their performance in the early 2000's. Irwin
would have definitely won some with Chip Ganassi buying that team from
Felix Sabates, he would have had the car that was Jason Leffler's ride.
Irwin would not live up to the "next Jeff Gordon" standards that Ford
had for him, but I think he would have won his share of races with
Ganassi, but God Bless them and RIP to both of them.


  160.   racefangurl posted:
  02.16.2016 - 11:24 pm
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Death comes in threes, they say. Adam Petty, Tony Roper and Kenny Irwin,
Jr. were a three. Dale Earnhardt was the start of the next three, by
that logic.


  161.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.16.2016 - 11:27 pm
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Best drivers to never win a cup race (NOT including active drivers):

1. Cecil Gordon
2. GC Spencer
3. Dave Blaney
4. Neil Castles
5. Joe Ruttman
6. Jimmie Lewallen
7. Richard Childress
8. Rick Mast
9. John Sears
10. JD McDuffie


  162.   Guest posted:
  02.17.2016 - 1:03 am
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I still can't believe NASCAR isn't going to release purse winnings for
race individual drivers. If we're not going to do that than every NASCAR
driver needs to have their contracts made public. We understand the
amount shown isn't all the driver's. Its always been give or take a
little like a 60/40 owner/driver split. I think this new charter goes to
like 75/25 or 80/20 for the owner. Even being considered somewhat of an
insider that I am I still can't stand all the secrecy. NASCAR is
becoming more and more like a circus with every season they run.


  163.   PenskeGuy posted:
  02.17.2016 - 2:02 am
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Kyle Larson could very well be in danger of challenging for best Cup
driver to not win a race... Unless he gets a win, that is. But even
McMurray has had trouble getting wins with Ganassi since 2010 ended. Not
that Jamie is an elite driver, but he has a lot more Cup experience than
Larson.

As far as drivers who already ended their Cup careers, Ted Musgrave and
Mike Skinner come to mind for category of "Best to never win a Cup race".


  164.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.17.2016 - 7:49 am
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That should be, best drivers to never win a race excluding active
drivers and Mike Skinner.


  165.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.17.2016 - 8:42 am
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In response to the Adam Petty thing, I do believe he would have had a
somewhat successful NASCAR career if he had lived, but you will find out
more about that when I finish with my big What If project that I'm
working on.


  166.   David posted:
  02.17.2016 - 12:35 pm
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"Kyle Larson could very well be in danger of challenging for best Cup
driver to not win a race..."

Whoa there...he's got nothing but time. I'd even predict him to win this
year.


  167.   Ian posted:
  02.17.2016 - 12:37 pm
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Not sure if this is the right place for this post, but for those who
were wondering, Jayski did finally put out the NXS Daytona entry list.
Entries of note include:

Austin Dillon in the #2
Kasey Kahne in the #5
Mark Thompson in the #13
Jeff Green in the #17 (Stanton Barrett in the #15 is not currently listed)
Matt Tifft in the #24
Derek White in the #40
Kyle Larson in the #42
Brandon Gdovic in the #46 (Anthony Kumpen was originally scheduled to drive)
Bobby Gerhart in the #85
Joe Nemechek in the #87
Mario Gosselin in the #92 (#90 is TBD)
Scott Lagasse, Jr. in the #93
Chris Fontaine in the #99
John Wes Townley in the #05 (switched from the #25)


  168.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.17.2016 - 12:55 pm
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46 cars possibly 47 entered for the xfinity race at Daytona I'm actually
surprised it got to that much entries assuming how bad the off season
was for this series but still no truck series entry list yet.


  169.   PenskeGuy posted:
  02.17.2016 - 1:08 pm
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I hope Larson does get a win, as he's one of the few drivers I still
like. Hopefully he can get on a hot streak at some point this year and
win one. It's just that Ganassi's drivers haven't seemed to have much
luck in the past few years when it comes to keeping momentum, save for
good races put together by Jamie here and there, and Larson's streak of
Top 5's towards the end of 2014.

If Adam Petty had lived, I think he might have won several races given
how dedicated he was to his career. Unfortunately, I think he would have
had to leave Petty Enterprises for that to happen. They were going
downhill fast, as John Andretti went from winning and being respectable
in '99 to struggling in '00.


  170.   jabber1990 posted:
  02.17.2016 - 1:39 pm
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"I expect him to get a win this year"

we've all been saying that for 3 years now


  171.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.17.2016 - 1:41 pm
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Dang, 43 trucks entered and 46 cars in Xfinity. Maybe the RTA will force
new owners into the lower series.


  172.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.17.2016 - 1:44 pm
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This is the first time since 2001 that Dale has not running in the
Xfinity race at Daytona.


  173.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.17.2016 - 1:45 pm
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Well apparently Michael Waltrip is going to race at Talladega too.


  174.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.17.2016 - 1:55 pm
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43 trucks entered pretty good it's going to be a very interesting
qualifying session with majority of the teams with very little to no
owners points from 2015.


  175.   Against Charters posted:
  02.17.2016 - 2:10 pm
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So if Larson doesn't win this year who do we blame now?


  176.   RWR posted:
  02.17.2016 - 2:25 pm
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I feel the Xfinity and Truck seris will be interesting to follow...


  177.   BK#23#93 posted:
  02.17.2016 - 2:53 pm
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@ #175

Most will still blame the 'shitty' equipment he apparently drives..


  178.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.17.2016 - 6:12 pm
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"So if Larson doesn't win this year who do we blame now?"

You act as if he hasn't come close to winning, when if things had gone
just a bit more his way he could have 5-6 victories by now.


  179.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.17.2016 - 6:29 pm
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Well, McDowell, Newman, Waltrip, Gilliland, and Larson all just wrecked
in practice. Well done guys, well done.


  180.   joey2448 posted:
  02.17.2016 - 6:34 pm
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The practice wreck today was caused by Ty Dillon's No. 95 car leaking
oil in front of a sizeable line of cars, and the first guy to get it on
his tires was the No. 40 of Reed Sorenson, who ran up the racetrack and
accordioned the line of cars behind him. Newman and Waltrip were the
ones to spin and wreck, but Larson, Gilliland and Chris Buescher also
got damage. It's reported that Larson will go to a backup.


  181.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.17.2016 - 6:46 pm
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Larson going to backup.


  182.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.17.2016 - 6:47 pm
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Waltrip is too.


  183.   Sean posted:
  02.17.2016 - 9:35 pm
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My top ten non-winners would be something like:

1. Dick Trickle
2. Mike Skinner
3. Joe Ruttman
4. Tommy Irwin
5. Banjo Matthews
6. Friday Hassler
7. Jimmy Massey
8. Ted Musgrave
9. G.C. Spencer
10. Rick Mast

Something like that. Chose Matthews, Hassler, and Massey largely because
they relief-drove winning entries...


  184.   Sean posted:
  02.17.2016 - 9:38 pm
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I'll replace Mast with Cecil Gordon, but not with Childress...


  185.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.17.2016 - 9:42 pm
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For some reason I always keep thinking Dick Trickle won a race at some
point.


  186.   Stan posted:
  02.17.2016 - 9:50 pm
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@161

I remember that Dave Blaney had a great run in the 2001 Cracker Barrel
500 before his car broke down. I think that was his best chance at a
Sprint Cup victory.

He might have won the 2003 race at Darlington if Kurt Busch and Ricky
Craven wrecked, because IIRC, he was closing in on both of them in a hurry.

In 2005, he led with 8 laps to go at Homestead, but since he didn't pit,
and the rest of the leaders did, the field quickly disposed of him.

And 2011, he got bumped out of the way late at Talladega by Kurt Busch
running while in the lead pack. I think that was his last chance at that
elusive race win.

The fact he only had four top 5s in his racing career is kinda shocking
IMO, because he didn't really do THAT bad, he just didn't have top-notch
equipment.




  187.   Debbie Downer posted:
  02.17.2016 - 11:43 pm
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Only 44 cars entered this year; an all-time low. 45 were entered in 2004
and 2013.


  188.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.18.2016 - 8:55 pm
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Michael McDowell will race on Sunday, making this the first time the #59
has raced in a Sprint Cup points race since Klaus Graf at Sonoma in
2004. The last time the #59 started a Daytona 500 was with Tighe Scott
in 1982.


  189.   racefangurl posted:
  02.18.2016 - 10:22 pm
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187 is a troll, I think. Look at the name.


  190.   joey2448 posted:
  02.19.2016 - 5:01 am
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So at this point, it appears the heavy favorite to win the Daytona 500
would be Dale Earnhardt Jr, followed by any of the Gibbs drivers (with
Denny Hamlin probably the favorite of that bunch), and then the Penske
duo as third best (led by Logano).

But I tell you what, don't overlook the two Ganassi drivers, Jamie
McMurray and Kyle Larson. Both darkhorses have shown speed over
Speedweeks, and Jamie Mac in particular has been impressive, driving up
from the back to the front in the Shootout and driving from midpack to
the front in his qualifying race. Both cars look good.


  191.   oldschoolracing519 posted:
  02.19.2016 - 7:33 am
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Truex, Jr. should be listed as qualified 42nd with Vickers and Harvick
behind him since theirs times were disqualified as that is how they were
lined up in the duels


  192.   Anonymous posted:
  02.19.2016 - 2:28 pm
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No they shouldn't, because this is the 500 and starting position is
based on Duels.


  193.   Tide1732 posted:
  02.19.2016 - 5:04 pm
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RIP Jim Cook


  194.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.19.2016 - 5:26 pm
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^ Who the hell are you talking about?


  195.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.19.2016 - 5:33 pm
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Jim Cook has been dead since 1983. You're a bit late.

Also, Vince Welch just referred to Ben Rhodes as "her". *facepalm*


  196.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.19.2016 - 5:34 pm
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Jayski reports that he was a retired pilot for RCR.


  197.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.19.2016 - 5:35 pm
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Former RCR Team Pilot Killed in Crash: A pilot died Thursday night after
his plane crashed in a wooded area in Union County, authorities said.
Officials identified the pilot as Jim Cook, 68, of Lexington, NC. Cook
reported engine problems before the plane went down. Investigators said
he was the only person on board. Cook was a long time pilot for Richard
Childress Racing. He retired from the race team and was working
part-time for various corporate customers.(WSCO)(2-19-2016)


  198.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.19.2016 - 5:40 pm
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Oh okay, nevermind.


  199.   Tide1732 posted:
  02.19.2016 - 6:17 pm
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No,

From Jayski

Jim Cook Is Died at 68 Years old from Airplane crash

Cook was a long time pilot for Richard Childress Racing. He retired from
the race team and was working part-time for various corporate customers.


  200.   racefangurl posted:
  02.20.2016 - 12:25 am
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195, Vince Welch must be the king of brain farts. Speaking of brain
farts, the initials are the same as B(rian) F(rance). BF has bf's.


  201.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.20.2016 - 12:27 pm
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Nascar on Fox brought back their 2001-2007 theme!!!!!


  202.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.20.2016 - 12:37 pm
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Wait, really??? That would be amazing. If thats true, combined with the
NBC theme (assuming they keep the same one from last year) its going to
be a great year for theme music.


  203.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.20.2016 - 12:42 pm
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Yep, via NASCAR on Fox Twitter:

RT to spread the news! @FOXSports: #NASCAR has a ... "new" ... theme
song. #NASCARThrowback


NBC does have best one still.


  204.   Chives5150 posted:
  02.20.2016 - 12:42 pm
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I remember NBCSN using a CBS bumper music song for their starting grids
in IndyCar for the last year or so. Really made me happy.


  205.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.20.2016 - 12:45 pm
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My top 3 favorite themes.

NBC 2015 - Pres
Fox 2001-2007, 2016- Pres
CBS 1998- 2000


FS1's theme for Sports Cars and Supercross is really good, but I can't
find a full version of it yet.


  206.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.20.2016 - 12:50 pm
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Starts at 14:50 for the one I can't find of a good version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7LoRpoz4MI


  207.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.20.2016 - 2:32 pm
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One significant thing about Chase Elliot is that he has the potential to
become the first major new star in a long, long, time.
Since Joey Logano and Brad Keselowski made their debuts in 2009, we
have't had a single new star. The closest thing we have is Kyle Larson,
and even he faded quickly.


  208.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.20.2016 - 2:40 pm
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That thing they just did with editing what the drivers said, that was
hilarious. "Our goal is to go out there and crash people" - Joey Logano


  209.   racefangurl posted:
  02.20.2016 - 5:51 pm
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207, stars fade sometimes. What the faded stars need is a win. Maybe
tomorrow. A Daytona 500 win is a big deal, whether it's their first or
second win of that race.


  210.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.20.2016 - 7:10 pm
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I think its pretty much gonna be Junior vs. the Gibbs cars (led by
Hamlin) tomorrow and possibly Penske. SHR hasn't looked very fast this
week at all.


  211.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.20.2016 - 9:56 pm
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I think Brad will definitely be in the top 5 all day, along with Joey.


  212.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.20.2016 - 10:01 pm
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The first stall is no longer a prized stall anymore. The leader has to
turn out instead of having a straight shot out.


  213.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:00 am
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Happy Daytona Day!!


  214.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:03 am
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Really wish all of the races were on a Saturday. I am the king of
procrastination.


  215.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:07 am
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I really don't mind that commercial. Its the one with the drivers making
engine noises I can't stand.


  216.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 8:36 am
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Today's the big day!


  217.   Minnowfur posted:
  02.21.2016 - 9:01 am
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Vroom vroom vroom


  218.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 9:23 am
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I like upsets so I'm picking against all the favorite's and I'll pick a
underdog to win just haven't decided which one to pick yet.


  219.   RWR posted:
  02.21.2016 - 9:27 am
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"Vroom vroom vroom "

Vroom Brands doesn't sponsor the Daytona 500, sorry!


  220.   24FanForever ~ Lets Do This ~ Chase4TheW posted:
  02.21.2016 - 9:39 am
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Who else is watching Untold stories: Daytona on FS1? Pretty interesting
stuff. Right now they are talking about Sterling Marlin's first win in 94.


  221.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 10:10 am
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Brian Scott makes his first start in RPM's #44 Ford. The Pettys are
fielding a #43 and a #44 together in the same race for the first time
since 2009.


  222.   24FanForever ~ Lets Do This ~ Chase4TheW posted:
  02.21.2016 - 10:51 am
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racefangurl why must you make me hate being a NASCAR fan? I mean really
@200 Brain farts compared to Brian France? How old are you, or how
stupid are you, possibly both. I'm starting to think it is a troll.


  223.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:29 pm
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Crowd looks spectacular as I can see so far.


  224.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:44 pm
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The gladiator music.....

That's the best they can find?


  225.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:46 pm
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"Danica has a new crew chief, so she might step it up this year" - DW

This is her third new crew chief in four years. I wouldn't get my hopes up.


  226.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:47 pm
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224- You mean O Fortuna? I actually like it.


  227.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:50 pm
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No boos for Kyle, but massive cheers for Dale.


  228.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:50 pm
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Chase Elliott probably gets the biggest round of cheers other than Junior.


  229.   John Royal posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:53 pm
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Thats devils music.


  230.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 12:58 pm
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What was the reactions for the Penske drivers? Although I probably know
already.


  231.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:01 pm
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I really didn't notice anyone get a huge amount of boos. Not even Kyle
Busch or Johnson or Logano.


  232.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:04 pm
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When Kyle was in rehab, Stewart came and saw him. Kyle was nervous he
would struggle like Tony did after his leg problems. Tony said it has
nothing to do with his health, he doesn't understand these cars.


That's scary considering all the cars he's and wins he has.


  233.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:13 pm
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It does make sense though. Even before his leg injury Stewart was
struggling in 2013.


  234.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:15 pm
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Here We Go!


  235.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:16 pm
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Superb anthem. Get more of these traditional choruses to do it, they're
always the best.


  236.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:20 pm
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The first race without Jeff Gordon since Phoenix in 1992. This is
definitely gonna take some getting used to...

Probably going to be a Hendrick vs. Gibbs showdown today, with Penske as
supporting players. As for the race itself, considering the Xfinity race
yesterday was pretty quiet, I can't help but think the 500 is going to
be more chaotic...


  237.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:20 pm
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Uhm, okay.


  238.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:20 pm
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Did the Grand Marshall seriously just make a 300 reference?


  239.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:20 pm
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There's been so much crap recently, so here's to 2016 and a year with a
new aero package(not here though) that will kick 2015's fanny! Glad to
be here for my 14th 500.


  240.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:21 pm
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THIS. IS. DAYTONA.

Guess it's only fitting coming from Gerard Butler...


  241.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:21 pm
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BTW, I'm anxious to see if Fox will also bring back the old grid music?


  242.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:21 pm
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DRIVERS START YOUR ENGINES!


  243.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:22 pm
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This Is Sparta, I mean Daytona!


  244.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:22 pm
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Oh, he was in that movie. NVM


  245.   Jared DiCarlo posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:22 pm
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How did I know he was going to make a 300 reference?


  246.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:25 pm
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Ready to start what I hope will be a much better year than 2015!


  247.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:25 pm
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The Roll Off Begins!


  248.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:26 pm
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Man, that music is awesome. Welcome back.


  249.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:26 pm
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Nope. Oh well. At least they brought back the other one.


  250.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:26 pm
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BTW, I'm anxious to see if Fox will also bring back the old grid music?

Nope. I liked that music more than the theme song FOX brought back.


  251.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:26 pm
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Nope, they didn't bring back the old grid music.


  252.   Mamorese posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:26 pm
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Wait when did they revert back to the old FOX theme?


  253.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:27 pm
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Man I can't get over how awesome it is to have the classic NASCAR on FOX
theme back instead the "one size fits all" shoehorning of the NFL on FOX
theme on all sports.


  254.   24FanForever ~ Lets Do This ~ Chase4TheW posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:27 pm
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Why does FOX have their old soubdtrack from 2001? I like it


  255.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:27 pm
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Well, our TV antenna has poor reception, so I won't be able to watch the
beginning of the race. I'm still super excited, though.


  256.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:27 pm
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Still, bringing back the old FOX theme music was a great pleasant surprise.


  257.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:27 pm
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Started yesterday for Xfinity qualifying.


  258.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:29 pm
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Gordon is going to be a good analyst, but he really needs to work on his
flow. Just screwed up that entire starting grid sequence by missing his
cue.


  259.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:29 pm
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Bravo for actually introducing the entire starting lineup.


  260.   24FanForever ~ Lets Do This ~ Chase4TheW posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:30 pm
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dennyfan11 Represents NASCAR's modern preteen fans perfectly.


  261.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:33 pm
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Coming to the green this time by.


  262.   Smiff_2 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:33 pm
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Here we go, boys!!


  263.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:33 pm
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BOOGITY BOOGITY BOOGITY!


  264.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:33 pm
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The 2016 NASCAR Season has begun!


  265.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:33 pm
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Green Flag!!


  266.   Nucl3ar Wa4le posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:33 pm
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Here we go!!!!!! The season starts now!!!!!!!


  267.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:33 pm
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THE SEASON BEGINS!


  268.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:34 pm
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Also, John Cena is the pace car driver...*Awaits more NASCAR/WWE
comparisons*

Green flag! Junior pushes Elliott out in front at the start.


  269.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:34 pm
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Green flag, finally!


  270.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:34 pm
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Elliott leads lap 1.


  271.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:35 pm
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Chase leads lap one with help from Junior.


  272.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:35 pm
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Chase Elliott leads with Dale Jr. behind him!


  273.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:35 pm
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Elliott leads the first lap of the season.


  274.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:35 pm
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How long does Jr. wait?


  275.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:35 pm
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Kevin Harvick gets shuffled to the middle.


  276.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:36 pm
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Harvick trying to lead a lane up the middle with help from Larson.


  277.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:36 pm
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More nostalgia on FOX, Dale Jr working with a NAPA at Daytona.


  278.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:36 pm
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Busch & Logano side by side as Hendrick leads lap 2!


  279.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:36 pm
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Already 3 wide through the pack.


  280.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:36 pm
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Bye Chase


  281.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:36 pm
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Jr. p1.


  282.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:36 pm
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Dale Earnhardt Jr takes the lead from Chase Elliot.


  283.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:37 pm
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Junior goes to the lead!


  284.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:37 pm
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Jr. to the lead.


  285.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:37 pm
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Junior goes to the lead on lap 4.


  286.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:37 pm
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And there goes Jr to the lead.


  287.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:37 pm
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Junior to the front.


  288.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:37 pm
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Buh-bye.


  289.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:38 pm
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Junior takes the lead. Right now it's Penske and Hendrick.


  290.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:38 pm
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Dale Jr. leads with Logano behind him! Looks like yesterday


  291.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:38 pm
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Denny Hamlin goes up to second.


  292.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:38 pm
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Hamlin with a big run.


  293.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:38 pm
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Hamlin and Kyle Busch shuffle around Elliott and Logano to go for second.


  294.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:38 pm
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Denny Hamlin briefly takes 3rd.


  295.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:39 pm
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Kenseth is flying through the pack.


  296.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:39 pm
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Geez. Matt Kenseth has gained 20 spots already.


  297.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:39 pm
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Still double file behind Dale.


  298.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:39 pm
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Junior is going to be tough to beat today...


  299.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:40 pm
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I wonder when Jr's crew will mess up.


  300.   joey2448 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:40 pm
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Kenseth and Johnson are both headed to the front. Both are around 15th
on lap 8.


  301.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:41 pm
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Matt Kenseth has already gained 20 spots!


  302.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:41 pm
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I see FOX still hasn't bothered to fix the fonts for Bowyer or a few of
the BK cars.


  303.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
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JGR looks good


  304.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:42 pm
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They brought back the side-by-side coverage during commercials.


  305.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:42 pm
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Side by side yay.


  306.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:42 pm
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Amazing...side by side and we're on lap 10? Keep it up FOX!


  307.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:42 pm
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Wow. A Greg Biffle commercial. When is the last time THAT happened?


  308.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:44 pm
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Denny Hamlin takes 2nd


  309.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:44 pm
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@298, I'm a casual Jr. fan, but I don't think he's going to win today.
Law of averages aren't on his side.


  310.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:45 pm
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Dale Jr continues to fight off all challengers.


  311.   24FanForever ~ Lets Do This ~ Chase4TheW posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:45 pm
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DW comparing opening laps of the Daytona 500 to the opening play of the
Super Bowl


Nah


  312.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:46 pm
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Debris on Juniors grille in 3...2...1...


  313.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:46 pm
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Edwards is reporting engine difficulties.


  314.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:46 pm
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Outside line losing ground.


  315.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:46 pm
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Dillon is all alone.


  316.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:47 pm
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The 3 car is all by himself


  317.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:47 pm
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Austin Dillon lost the draft!


  318.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:47 pm
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Austin Dillon and Robert Richardson have lost the draft altogether.


  319.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:47 pm
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27 cars within 1.7 seconds of one another.
Awesome.


  320.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:47 pm
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Austin Dillon and Robert Richardson have lost the draft, 7 seconds and
16 seconds back respectively.


  321.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:47 pm
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Kyle Busch makes a move on Jr. for the lead!


  322.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:47 pm
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Kyle Busch for the lead. And WHAT A SAVE by Harvick!!!


  323.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:47 pm
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Kyle Busch takes the lead, while Kevin Harvick does a GREAT save.


  324.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:47 pm
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Kyle Busch to the lead.

Harvick goes all wild.


  325.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:48 pm
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Kyle Busch leads and Harvick saves it!


  326.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:48 pm
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How did Harvick not get collected? Wonder how his tires are after that
save.


  327.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:48 pm
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What a save by Harvick!


  328.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:48 pm
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Kyle Busch takes the lead as Kevin Harvick nearly crashes off turn 4!


  329.   Smiff_2 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:48 pm
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Harvick with the save!


  330.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:48 pm
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Chase Elliott is done.


  331.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:48 pm
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And Chase Elliott spins!
Regan Smith also involved.
Terrible for Elliott, who was running 8th at the time.


  332.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:48 pm
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Elliott gets hood damage. Smith spins, no damage.



Blame the splitter.


  333.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:49 pm
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Kyle Busch takes the lead as Kevin Harvick has to make the save of a
lifetime!

Welp Chase is done.


  334.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:49 pm
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Kinda early for Dillon to lose the draft


  335.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:49 pm
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Effing grass.


  336.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:49 pm
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And Chase Elliott spins out and slides through the grass, tearing off
the whole nose!

Just like that, Elliott goes from starting on the pole to probably
finishing last in his first 500...


  337.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
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Chase was good until the grass ripped up everything under the hood.


  338.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:49 pm
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I'm not a big Chase fan but that sucks. He stayed of the wall only to
have the grass destroy his car...


  339.   Matthew posted:
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Chase Elliott Wrecks hard! #7 Also involved. So much for the return of
the #24.


  340.   The Long Shot posted:
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What an incredible save by Harvick!

Chase Elliott and Regan Smith spin. Elliott has heavy front end damage
due to hitting the grass. He's probably out of contention. That sucks.


  341.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:50 pm
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Elliott got loose in front of Edwards and got turned.


  342.   Chives5150 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:50 pm
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There goes everyone's conspiracy theory. lol


  343.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:50 pm
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When's the last(if ever) 1st to worst in the Daytona 500?


  344.   Nucl3ar Wa4le posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:50 pm
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Chase Elliot already done. Wow. The grass claims yet another car, and
this one is the biggest.


  345.   Braindead Zombie posted:
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Looks like Chase Elliott will become the first driver to finish last
after starting first since... I can't remember the last time that happened.


  346.   TS1420 posted:
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"Blame the splitter."

NASCAR needs to finally do away with that garbage for 2017.


  347.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:51 pm
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This helps out Dillon and Harvick a lot.


  348.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
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This is pretty much what happens every time these cars slide through the
grass at high speed. The splitter acts like a scoop and just rips the
whole nose off and destroys the car. Makes me wonder if they'll ever get
rid of them...


  349.   RaceFanX posted:
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Elliott's impromptu splitter-related wheelie has left the #24 Chevy on
the hook and heading to the garage. Chase lead his first 500 early but
his chances to win this one are over.


  350.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:53 pm
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#TeamValance


  351.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:53 pm
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Not sure if this was mentioned yet but Harvicks save looked IDENTICAL to
Johnny Sauter on Friday in the truck race. Guess who won that race?


  352.   Allen posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:54 pm
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@345, if I remember correctly, it happened to Denny Hamlin at Atlanta in
2010.


  353.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:54 pm
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Denny Hamlin wins the race off pit road over Kurt Busch.


  354.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:54 pm
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Top 9 take 2 rest take 4.


  355.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:54 pm
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Top 8-9 took 2 tires. Seems JoLo is the first to take 4.


  356.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
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"Looks like Chase Elliott will become the first driver to finish last
after starting first since... I can't remember the last time that happened."

Last time I can think of is...Denny Hamlin at Atlanta a few years back?

Not sure how many times the polesitter finished last at the Daytona 500...


  357.   joey2448 posted:
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Folks blaming the grass, but if they just had a minimum ride height for
these cars, we wouldn't be seeing the cars dig in every time they spin!
That never used to be a problem, until the front splitter was introduced
and now they run an inch off the pavement.


  358.   Nathan8848 posted:
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Even without the Chevy emblems, you can clearly tell it's a Chevy by
it's grille and light design.


  359.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:55 pm
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Weird how everybody is talking about lack of grip yet come in take 2 tires.


  360.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:56 pm
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A speedy deliver of service from the FedEx team puts Sprint Unlimited
winner Denny Hamlin out front. Rowdy drops to third.


  361.   Cumulonimbus posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:56 pm
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It seems like tire wear is actually higher than it's usually the case on
superspeedways, you could see how the cars became harder and harder to
control as the run went on. I don't really remember seeing this the last
seasons.


  362.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:57 pm
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Ryan Newman, Paul Menard, Bobby Labonte, and Kevin Harvick stay out.


  363.   joey2448 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:57 pm
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Also, this is a bit late, but car No. 24 led the first lap of the
Daytona 500 with a rookie behind the wheel. Sound familiar?


  364.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:58 pm
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Chase's first Daytona 500 began much like his predecessor's, leading the
opening laps and running up front early. It definitely won't END the
same way as Gordon's first 500 did, though...

They might try to fix the #24 and get it back out there for points, but
he's pretty much guaranteed to finish in the bottom 5...


  365.   Maverick11 posted:
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Yeah if the splitter was higher up, the cars wouldn't dig in the grass.
There would be a ton of grass on the splitter but it would be intact if
just a few inches higher.


  366.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 1:58 pm
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All 4 come in the second time by.


  367.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:00 pm
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Hamlin leads to the green.


  368.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:00 pm
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Back under green.


  369.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:00 pm
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Green Flag back out at lap 26! Hamlin leads, followed by the Busch
Brothers.


  370.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:01 pm
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Kurt Busch remains alongside Hamlin for the lead down the backstretch.


  371.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:01 pm
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Hamlin and Kurt Busch battling for the lead.


  372.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:01 pm
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Kurt Busch pushed to the lead by Junior, but Kyle pushes teammate Hamlin
back.


  373.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:01 pm
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Johnson already up to 5th.


  374.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:02 pm
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Matt Kenseth and Jimmie Johnson started way at the back because of their
backups from the Duel wreck. They are both now in the top-7 after just
27 laps.


  375.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:02 pm
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Outside line is falling back.


  376.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:02 pm
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Outside line stalled. Highest running 6th.


  377.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:03 pm
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Jimmie Johnson with a run on the outside!


  378.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:04 pm
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Johnson jumps to the outside to lead the upper lane.


  379.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:04 pm
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Johnson up to the outside. He, Kenseth and Truex are all in the top five
after starting at the back.


  380.   RaceFanX posted:
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Michael Annett and Robert Richardson, Jr., the world's fastest
hayfarmer, are at the back of the pack in.


  381.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:05 pm
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Chase Elliott is out of the care center.


  382.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
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Truex all the way to 3rd in the JD Stacy..er Bass Pro Shop car.


  383.   Matthew posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:05 pm
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Junior back to 8th right now.


  384.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:06 pm
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I'll take that commercial over "A lot of people have helped get me here..."


  385.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:07 pm
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Surprised the outside lane isn't moving. Even with the Hendrick cars.


  386.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:07 pm
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Bass pro shops seems to sponsor everybody now a days


  387.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:08 pm
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Having TWO identically painted Bass Pro Shops cars is REALLY confusing...


  388.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:09 pm
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For restrictor plate races, absolutely.
At 'Dega, Bass Pro could be on the #1, #3, #15 and the #95 if Ty Dillon
drives that race along with the 14 and 78.


  389.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:09 pm
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4 cars breakaway at the front.


  390.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:10 pm
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Gibbs and Co. has the top 4 positions.


  391.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:10 pm
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It's just like when Evernham / Dodge had 2 identical cars.


  392.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:10 pm
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Jimmie Johnson moves back to the inside line.


  393.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:10 pm
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NASCAR Goes Nippon: Toyotas are 1-2-3-4.


  394.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:11 pm
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Settling into single file as we approach the one quarter mark.


  395.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:11 pm
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Oh no, the race is slowly turning single file. WORST RACE EVER!!!!!


  396.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:12 pm
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Outside really falling back.


  397.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:12 pm
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I don't rememberer the outside being this much of a struggle.


  398.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:12 pm
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Train goes by 15 cars.


  399.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:13 pm
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The outside line has no momentum and is drifting further and further
back. I get the feeling they're going to go single-file soon and stay
that way for quite a while...


  400.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:13 pm
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Michael Waltrip's Maxwell House #83 is really sharp. I love the coffee
brand's bright blue with white look. Simple and classy.


  401.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:14 pm
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Single file through 15th now, then double file.


  402.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:14 pm
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Its been a pretty good race so far, who cares if they're single file
right now its early.


  403.   Anonymous posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:14 pm
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Oh hey single file racing, that's totally not boring.


  404.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:15 pm
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Danica Patrick is 21st right now. This is her first points race in the
bright blue colors of Nature's Bakery.


  405.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:15 pm
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All 39 cars in one big pack.


  406.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:15 pm
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Target: "We let kids run around wild in our stores".


  407.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:15 pm
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Just as I mention Michael Waltrip the broadcast does too as he makes an
aggressive move to cut off Trevor Bayne.


  408.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:18 pm
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And now a single file pack has started to break away.


  409.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:18 pm
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Single file breakaway at the front.


  410.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:18 pm
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Top 7 are leaving the rest of the field behind as the rest of the pack
runs double-file behind them.


  411.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:18 pm
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The racing so far is actually reminding me a lot of the early laps of
the 2007 race, which ended up one being one of the best ever.


  412.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:18 pm
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2014 Coke Zero 400 winner Aric Almirola is up to sixth, leading Ford's
resistance, with Ryan Blaney up to seventh, the Wood Brothers' #21
running the best of the non-charter teams.


  413.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:19 pm
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Edwards is planning safe by running 39th.


  414.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:20 pm
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Junior gets shuffled out to the high side as we pass the one quarter mark.


  415.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:20 pm
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Junior with a problem? Or is he dropping back on purpose?


  416.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:20 pm
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Jr. is falling way back.


  417.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:20 pm
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So Dale Jr.'s pit crew put a soft drink on his pit stall for more grip.
#Desperatemeasures


  418.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:20 pm
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Junior dropping to the back.


  419.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:20 pm
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Dale Junior's team is pulling the old "dump some pop in the pit stall to
give it more traction" trick. Been a while since I've seen that one.


  420.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:21 pm
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He wanted the inside so he went back. No matter how far back it was.


  421.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:23 pm
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I'm not worried about it being single file in the first 100 laps.
But if they do this crap with 10 to go I'll be pissed.


  422.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:23 pm
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Vickers goes around. Edwards with more damaged.


  423.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:23 pm
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Vickers spins, Edwards gets smacked into the wall


  424.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:23 pm
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Vickers and Edwards receive damage.


  425.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:24 pm
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Vickers spins and Edwards hits the wall.


  426.   Against Charters posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:24 pm
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Interesting race so far


  427.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:24 pm
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Crash! Brian Vickers spins, and Carl Edwards and Trevor Bayne get damage.


  428.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:24 pm
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Bayne has minor hood damage as well.


  429.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:24 pm
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Brian Vickers goes around back in the pack as Carl Edwards and Trevor
Bayne wack the wall. Second caution of the day.


  430.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:24 pm
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Edwards, Bayne & SHR JD Stacy car wreck.


  431.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:25 pm
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Waltrip almost drilled Vickers.


  432.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:25 pm
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Bayne has damage, a second Daytona 500 victory will not be in the cards
for today.

Vickers didn't hit anything! He could still be okay.


  433.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:25 pm
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Wow Junior just barely missed that.


  434.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:25 pm
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Well, Edwards' strategy of staying in the back did not pay off for him...


  435.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:25 pm
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Looks like Bayne sent Edwards into the wall.


  436.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:26 pm
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Even with Tony Stewart on the sidelines Tony Stewart's #14 still hits
trouble. This is Brian Vickers' first points race in almost a year.


  437.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:26 pm
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Edwards turned into Bayne.


  438.   BMan0213 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:26 pm
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Keep Toyota from winning the manufacturers title.


  439.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:27 pm
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Everyone comes to pit road. (Well, it's been almost 40 laps since they
pitted the first time...)


  440.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:27 pm
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What a job of avoiding by Junior and Waltrip.


  441.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:27 pm
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Jimmie Johnson takes 2 tires and wins the race off pit road.


  442.   markjeff531 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:27 pm
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Looks like Logano hit the brake off Turn 4 and Vickers had a good run
and aerodynamics spun Vickers around


  443.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:27 pm
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Boo!


  444.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:27 pm
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I'm Jimmie Johnson. Boom. Two tires.


  445.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:27 pm
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Jimmie Johnson takes two tires and leaves pit road with the lead.


  446.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:29 pm
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A lot of wrecks this week have been caused by guys getting sideways out
of turn four. Both of them so far in this race as well as the near wreck
with Harvick.


  447.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:29 pm
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Turn 4 seems to be really slick. Harvick, Elliott, and now this.


  448.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:32 pm
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Green flag!


  449.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:33 pm
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Hamlin stays right with Johnson.


  450.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:33 pm
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The outside seems better this time. Hamlin is challenging for the lead.


  451.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:33 pm
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Reports of debris. Really....


  452.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:33 pm
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Hamlin and Johnson stay side by side the whole first lap after the restart.


  453.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:34 pm
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Keselowski makes it 3 wide.


  454.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:35 pm
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Three-wide back in the pack as Danica gets shuffled to the middle.


  455.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:35 pm
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Danica gets stuck in the middle.


  456.   racefangurl posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:35 pm
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435, it looks like they got messed up from what happened with Vickers
and Joey.


  457.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:35 pm
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Get out of the way!


  458.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:35 pm
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Danica sighting in the top 12.


  459.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:36 pm
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Edwards is in 39th, 1 lap down after the crash.


  460.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:36 pm
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Surprised Kyle and Kenseth haven't gone under Dos Jotas coming off the
tri-oval.


  461.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:36 pm
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3 wide through the pack!


  462.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:37 pm
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Denny Hamlin back to the front. The Toyotas are fast today, the brand is
still seeking its first Daytona 500 win. In fact since it joined the Cup
series in 2007 the Toyoytas have only won one Cup race at Daytona, Kyle
Busch's Coke Zero 400 win in 2008.


  463.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:37 pm
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Top two are STILL side by side.


  464.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:37 pm
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Elliott back on track.


  465.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:37 pm
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Chase Elliott is back on track, 40 laps behind.


  466.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:38 pm
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Ryan Blaney >>>> Trevor Bayne. To compare the two is an insult.


  467.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:38 pm
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Chase Elliott is back in the race. 40 laps down.


  468.   joey2448 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:39 pm
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Good to see handling becoming a factor again. Love it when drivers have
to wrestle with their cars, makes for good racing.


  469.   Cumulonimbus posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:40 pm
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Seems like Johnson managed to pull ahead on the inside line now and the
outside is falling back like in the last run. They're probably gonna be
single file in a few laps.


  470.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:41 pm
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Remember racing-referenceketeers, there is a page split coming up at 500
comments. Controls will engage once we get there to allow you to move
between pages or view all comments on one page.


  471.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:41 pm
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Jimmie Johnson now ahead.


  472.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:42 pm
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Jr. has to play strategy and get in front. He is stuck.


  473.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:42 pm
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Casey Mears up to the top ten.


  474.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:43 pm
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Nice. They got Tony Stewart reporting in.


  475.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:43 pm
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Tony Stewart live via phone. I can hear him clearly, so he's obviously
not using Sprint.


  476.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:43 pm
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Interesting to see Stewart on the phone during the middle of the race.


  477.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:43 pm
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The Gibbs cars and Truex have gotten themselves lined up behind Johnson.


  478.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:44 pm
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Tony's a guy that I'd really like to see in an announcing role.


  479.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:45 pm
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Gibbs train to the lead.


  480.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:45 pm
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Kyle Busch now takes the lead.


  481.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:45 pm
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Johnson gets shuffled out. Gibbs to the lead.


  482.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:45 pm
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Busch back to the lead.


  483.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:46 pm
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(Train horn)
Jimmie Johnson is getting freight trained to the back.


  484.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:46 pm
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Johnson in the sucker hole.


  485.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:46 pm
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There goes the Toyota train. And The Chevy train...even the Ford train.
Two tires are at their limit.


  486.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:46 pm
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Johnson gets left out to dry.


  487.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:46 pm
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Kyle to the lead and we have a JGR 1-2-3. Johnson gets stuck in the
middle and drops to the back.


  488.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:46 pm
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Jr. back in 10th. Shhhh.


  489.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:46 pm
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Don't look now, but Dale Jr. is making his way back toward the front.


  490.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:47 pm
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Johnson gets shuffled to the middle as the Gibbs brigade now run 1-2-3.
The rest of the field could be in big trouble with them out front...


  491.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:47 pm
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The Toyota Choo-Choo back up front as Jimmie falls to the middle of the
pack.


  492.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:49 pm
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Jimmie fell all the way back to Danicaland.


  493.   Cumulonimbus posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:49 pm
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Did they just call it "the fearsome Toyota foursome"? My ears are bleeding.


  494.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:49 pm
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Top 9 are single file right now.


  495.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:50 pm
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It took 84 laps this year before DW mentioned his mancrush Cole Pearn.


  496.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:50 pm
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Nice run by Ty.


  497.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:50 pm
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Toyota is again 1-2-3-4.

Danica Patrick is up to 11th. If I'm not mistaken she and A.J.
Allmendinger are the only drivers to rise out of the Formula Atlantic
ranks to be in the field today.


  498.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:50 pm
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DW finally mentions his last season crush, Cole Pearn.


  499.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:50 pm
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Now the top 11 are in a single-file draft.


  500.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:51 pm
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Kyle Larson's got a hood pin loose but the hood is still holding in
place alright.


  501.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:51 pm
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Jr. passes Ty for 8th.


  502.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:52 pm
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Single file as we approach halfway.


  503.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:53 pm
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"Zootopia"- Disney's first animated movie to include a period of the
climatic subway scene from "Speed"...where can I get a ticket?


  504.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:54 pm
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NASCAR.com changed the in car cam design.


  505.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:54 pm
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Back to single file. But as long as they're not doing it with 10 to go
or less, or the entire race like the 2009 Talladega Fall race, I'm cool
with it.


  506.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:55 pm
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Johnson back to 11th.


  507.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:55 pm
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Outside lane is forming again.


  508.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:56 pm
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Buescher and DiBenedtto wreck.


  509.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:56 pm
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Big crash! Chris Buscher hard in the wall, collecting Matt DiBenedetto.


  510.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:56 pm
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Chris Buescher and Mart DiBenedetto crash HARD.


  511.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:56 pm
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Crash! Chris Buescher and Matt DiBenedetto. Looks like Edwards may have
been involved AGAIN.


  512.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:56 pm
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Wreck in the back. Buescher and DiBenedetto. Carl picked up more damage
too.


  513.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:56 pm
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HUGE crash in turn 1 as Chris Buescher and Matt DiBenedetto are HARD in
the wall. Both cars are destroyed.


  514.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:56 pm
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Buescher and DiBurrito crash.


  515.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:57 pm
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Hard crash. Buescher and DiBenedetto are destroyed.


  516.   Cumulonimbus posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:57 pm
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That looks like a hard hit by Buescher and DiBenedetto.


  517.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:57 pm
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Chris Buescher and Matt DiBenendetto crash. (I'm listening on MRN)


  518.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:57 pm
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Not sure what happened there.

Matt slides into the wall, then Chris slides up. Separate incidents,
just next to each other.


  519.   Nucl3ar Wa4le posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:57 pm
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Hard crash! DiBennedetto and Buescher involved.


  520.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:57 pm
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Is everyone okay?


  521.   Against Charters posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:57 pm
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Buescher and matty ice crash


  522.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:58 pm
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No damage for Carl or Chase. Heavy braking was the cause of the smoke.


  523.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:58 pm
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DiBenedetto and Buescher both went in there very hard. Possibly they
made contact?


  524.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:58 pm
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Matt looks dazed.


  525.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:58 pm
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Matt climbs out, and Buescher climbs out, both are a little shaken up. I
was a little worried there for a moment.


  526.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:59 pm
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Never mind about Edwards. He just slammed on the brakes really hard.
Looks like everyone is okay.


  527.   JRacingFast posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:59 pm
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Hopefully Matt's ok


  528.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:59 pm
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DiBenedetto and Buescher are out of their cars. Both look pretty winded.


  529.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:59 pm
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The annotation that I was listening to MRN wasn't actually necessary in
my last post; at first, one of MRN's reporters thought the car of
DiBenedetto was that of Michael Waltrip.


  530.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:59 pm
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At first I thought Matt had a limp, now he looks like he's rattled.


  531.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 2:59 pm
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Denny Hamlin wins the race off pit road, but David Ragan leads, being
one of 20 cars who stayed out.


  532.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:00 pm
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Hamlin wins the race out of the pits, but a few cars did not stop.

I don't think we'll be seeing the #34 or the #93 back on track today...


  533.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:00 pm
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Elliott is 40 laps down.


  534.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:01 pm
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Everyone pits that lap except Michael Waltrip.


  535.   Cumulonimbus posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:01 pm
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Once again, there appears to be no good replay of what happened, just
like in yesterday's Xfinity race when they crashed at the back of the pack.


  536.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:01 pm
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This is the first 500 for both DiBenedetto and Buescher, the reigning
Xfinity series champ. Shame it's ended in such a hard wreck for both.


  537.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:03 pm
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Chase Elliott, if he can stay on track for another 40 laps, will not
finish last.


  538.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:04 pm
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And now Waltrip comes to pit road, cycling Denny Hamlin into the lead.


  539.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:05 pm
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Walt rip ends up pitting. No stayed out anymore.


  540.   BMan0213 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:07 pm
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Keep Toyota from winning the race.


  541.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:07 pm
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They'll probably go back to green right at the halfway point.


  542.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:09 pm
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Looks like Edwards did have some more damage after all.


  543.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:10 pm
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Edwards' crew is still making repairs to the #19 car.


  544.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:10 pm
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I think they're just making even more repairs from the lap 56 crash.


  545.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:11 pm
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Denny Hamlin leads to the green.


  546.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:11 pm
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Green flag as we are right at the halfway point!


  547.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:12 pm
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Denny leads at halfway


  548.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:12 pm
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Truex lagged back on that restart to allow Denny and Matt to get to the
inside.


  549.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:12 pm
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Khane, highest running Chevy. Wow.


  550.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:13 pm
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Great racing in the pack right now!


  551.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:13 pm
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100 down, 100 to go and we still have 36 of the 40 starters on the lead
lap and in contention.

Kasey Kahne is up to third for the Chevy boys in the #5.


  552.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:13 pm
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Three wide throughout the pack now.


  553.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:13 pm
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The four JGR affiliated cars are all hooked up down low.


  554.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:14 pm
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Defiantly disappointed in Jr's run so far. He keeps getting stuck.


  555.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:14 pm
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Feel awful for DiBenedetto. Took all the responsibility for the accident
and looks just devastated.


  556.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:14 pm
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DiBenedetto owns up to causing his wreck. Tough luck but it's good to
see he takes responsibility for his mistakes.


  557.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:16 pm
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The cars up high need to work together better if they want to get
anywhere near the Toyota train.


  558.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:16 pm
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Mears has to pit. Maybe a tire.


  559.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:16 pm
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Mears with a problem. Well there goes my dark horse pick.


  560.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:16 pm
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Casey Mears makes an unscheduled stop and loses a lap. Gibbs and Co.
still out front.


  561.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:16 pm
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The outside lines are starting to drop back.

Casey Mears makes an unscheduled pit stop.


  562.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:17 pm
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Loose wheel for Mears.


  563.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:17 pm
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Mears had a loose wheel.


  564.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:18 pm
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They're bringing back the mid-race report? Cuz we all wanna see a
closeup of Myers or Mike Joy and an iso of one car tucked away in the
corner.


  565.   Canadianfan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:18 pm
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I thought you had to merge off of two did they change it this year


  566.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:18 pm
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Chris released from infield care center.


  567.   Cumulonimbus posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:19 pm
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@565 I'm pretty sure at Daytona you could merge into turn 1 since like
forever. At Talladega it's off turn 2.


  568.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:22 pm
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Someone needs to split up the Gibbs train. Come on Dillon and Junior, do
something.


  569.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:22 pm
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Man, it's going to take a real effort to beat the Gibbs cars today. They
work so well together that it's hard to make any ground on them.


  570.   Canadianfan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:22 pm
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Thanks doesn't make a whole lot of sense though Talladega is much wider
than Daytona.


  571.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:23 pm
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McMurray is also in that Chevy group behind the Gibbs.


  572.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:24 pm
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Come on Jr.!!! Don't disappoint me in the fantasy standings!


  573.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:25 pm
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How Danica adjusts after a bad race is drinking Coca-Cola.
I'm surprised she ain't got diabetes.


  574.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:25 pm
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Baffle with issues.


  575.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:26 pm
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Blew a tire.


  576.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:26 pm
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Biffle has got a flat.


  577.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:26 pm
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Problem for Greg Biffle. Guess he won't be settling for second place today.


  578.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:26 pm
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Caution for real debris, as Greg Biffle blows a tire.


  579.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:26 pm
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Greg Biffle off the pace and heading to the pits. A tire went down and
he's got heavy damage to the right rear, and the yellow flag is out for
debris from the #16.


  580.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:26 pm
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Caution.


Of course when Fox comes back from commercial, there is a caution.


  581.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:27 pm
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Biffle blows a right rear and the caution flies for debris.


  582.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:27 pm
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The Colonel blows a tire.
Nashville Spicy Chicken too hot to handle for Goodyear.


  583.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:27 pm
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Come on, lets split up the Gibbs cars in the pits.


  584.   Anonymous posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:27 pm
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Can someone post a livestream link to watch the race? Everytime I search
for it, it keeps giving me some crap to pay for it or some stupid article.


  585.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:27 pm
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i forgot to play fantasy


  586.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:28 pm
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584- You don't have FOX?


  587.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:28 pm
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I'm half expecting someone to question the validity of that caution. We
had someone questioning the validity of a caution at Watkins Glen last
year in which cars dumped a bunch of oil on the track, after all...

Seriously, though, that was definitely a necessary caution, Biffle's car
left a LOT of debris on the backstretch and in turns 3 and 4.


  588.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:29 pm
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Hamlin wins the race off of pit road again.


  589.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:29 pm
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Kenseth gets hung up in the pits by Regan Smith, and loses a number of
spots.


  590.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:29 pm
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Jr. takes 4 and is crumpled in the middle of the field.


  591.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:30 pm
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I do seem to remember though the Gibbs cars dominated the first 150 or
so laps of the 2013 Snorefest 500 before everything fell apart, so there
is hope.


  592.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:31 pm
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Biffle was running 10th when problems hit, bummer. The Roush #16 KFC
Ford was showing some speed for the first time in a while today.


  593.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:31 pm
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All part of the master plan. Biffle is gonna go 75 laps on a single tank.


  594.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:32 pm
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"All part of the master plan. Biffle is gonna go 75 laps on a single tank."

Only way that works is if the #16 has an incredibly illegal, over-sized
fuel tank!


  595.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:34 pm
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Biffle's tire that blew out was a LEFT rear tire...that they put on the
RIGHT rear.

How did they screw that up?


  596.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:35 pm
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Come on Jamie!


  597.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:35 pm
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Outside line is really falling back.


  598.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:36 pm
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Giggles looking to spoil the Toyota Party.


  599.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:36 pm
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The outside line just can't get nose to tail as tightly as the inside.


  600.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:37 pm
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35 cars on the lead lap, 34 in the lead pack.


  601.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:38 pm
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Big move by Junior to move Kinzis out of the way.


  602.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:38 pm
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"The outside line just can't get nose to tail as tightly as the inside."

Probably has to do with the fact that Gibbs-powered cars are 1-2-3 on
the inside.

Close call between Junior and Kenseth there.


  603.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:39 pm
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Man, I would NOT want to be one of these spotters at Daytona or
Talladega. Hard to imagine a more challenging job!


  604.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:40 pm
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Kyle Larson up to fourth.


  605.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:40 pm
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70 to go.


  606.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:40 pm
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Top ten single file, then Johnson and Junior trying to make it work up
on the outside.


  607.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:41 pm
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Didn't T. J. Majors run in the Goody's Dash Series back in the day for
Junior? I seem to remember seeing that...


  608.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:41 pm
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Khane, Johnson, Jr, and McMurray need to get something going.


  609.   Against Charters posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:43 pm
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This race is shaping up to be exciting at the end


  610.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:43 pm
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Bowyer better watch out, with all that time he spends outside he could
pick up poison oak.


  611.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:44 pm
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OK, seriously, I really hope the drivers got paid well for the silly
commercial where they imitate the engine noises. You'd have to pay me a
LOT to get me to do a commercial like that...

The outside line is starting to make some ground again as we approach
the 350 mile mark.


  612.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:45 pm
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Something just flew out of Kenseths car.


  613.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:45 pm
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A roll bar flew off of the 20 car.


  614.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:45 pm
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2x2 again.


  615.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:46 pm
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What the hell was that that came out of Kenseth's car?

Logano is almost alongside Hamlin for the lead!


  616.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:46 pm
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Battle for the lead on the outside. The piece of debris from Kenseth's
car is now off the racing groove.


  617.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:46 pm
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Real legit debris on the track.

NASCAR: "Eh, let them race".


  618.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:47 pm
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Outside line is picking back up slowly but surely.


  619.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:47 pm
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Now they slide back again as Kurt Busch gets shuffled back. That outside
line has a hard time staying organized.


  620.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:47 pm
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Johnson just got really loose.


  621.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:47 pm
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Dos Jotas clipped the apron and almost caused something real bad.


  622.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:47 pm
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Another save, this time by Johnson.


  623.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:48 pm
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"What the hell was that that came out of Kenseth's car?"

MRN reported that he hit something, so perhaps that's what you saw.


  624.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:48 pm
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Close call for the #48 there.


  625.   Smiff_2 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:48 pm
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I'd be pretty stoked to see Truex somehow win this....


  626.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:49 pm
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"Real legit debris on the track.

NASCAR: "Eh, let them race"."

Until a driver throws a water bottle onto the tri-oval grass...


  627.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:50 pm
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Seems like we are averaging a commercial break every 5 laps.


  628.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:51 pm
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Reports are it fell off of Richardson's car.


  629.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:51 pm
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Closing in on 50 to go. The outside line still isn't able to find enough
momentum to hang with the Gibbs-powered cars.

With this two and three-wide racing throughout the pack behind them, I'd
be surprised if we don't see the big one before this is over...


  630.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:52 pm
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Harvick now trying to lead the outside lane to nowhere.


  631.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:52 pm
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The outside line just can't seem to get any higher than fourth or fifth.


  632.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:53 pm
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Joey Logano is up to fifth, the best of the Fords, as he tries to be the
first driver to win back-to-back 500s since Sterling Marlin two decades
ago.


  633.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:53 pm
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Richardson has gone to the garage.


  634.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:53 pm
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Richardson has gone to the garage, don't know why though.


  635.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:53 pm
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Giggles could have a problem.


  636.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:53 pm
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Logano may now have a vibration. Ut oh.


  637.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:54 pm
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Austin Dillon running sixth, the fans will tear this place down in joy
if he could score his first win today.


  638.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:54 pm
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50 to go.


  639.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:55 pm
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Who do you think is the biggest disappointment so far in this race? I
say Jr.


  640.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:57 pm
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Larson and Dillon are both running great.


  641.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:57 pm
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"Who do you think is the biggest disappointment so far in this race? I
say Jr."

The outside/non-Toyota line.


  642.   Canadianfan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:58 pm
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Per Twitter broken valve for Robert Richardson Jr.


  643.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:58 pm
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"Who do you think is the biggest disappointment so far in this race? I
say Jr."

Probably Chase Elliott. Came in with such high expectations after
winning the pole only to crash out very early in the race.

Though I'm surprised Junior hasn't been as much of a factor as I thought
he would be. Keselowski is another driver I thought would be running up
front more often than he has today.


  644.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:58 pm
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Less than 50 laps to go, and Hamlin still leads a single file pack.


  645.   murb posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:59 pm
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"Who do you think is the biggest disappointment so far in this race? I
say Jr."

I picked Keselowski to be like how Logano was last year and be the only
one to challenge the JGR cars, but he hasn't looked as good as I thought
he would and instead Logano is pretty much mirroring his race from last
year.


  646.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:59 pm
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The only way that outside line has any momentum is if the Gibbs brigade
is leading it. Otherwise, the just have nothing for the inside line.

Leaders are pitting.


  647.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 3:59 pm
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Gasp! Green flag pit stops.


  648.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:00 pm
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"Who do you think is the biggest disappointment so far in this race?"

Carl Edwards.


  649.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:00 pm
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Johnson: men to soon. Pass through.


  650.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:00 pm
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Penalty....48


  651.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:00 pm
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Johnson gets a penalty, the team is over the wall too soon.


  652.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:01 pm
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Nap-Time's crew too fast over the wall.


  653.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:01 pm
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Green flag pit stops have begun. Johnson gets a penalty for his crew
over the wall too soon. That'll make some people here happy.


  654.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:01 pm
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Johnson penalized for crew going over the wall too soon.


  655.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:01 pm
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Ryan Blaney locks it up big time coming into the pits.


  656.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:02 pm
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Jr. up to 3rd. Huh.


  657.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:02 pm
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And like that, Junior is third. Thanks for waking him up Maverick.


  658.   racefangurl posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:03 pm
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Maybe there'll be late Big One. It's happened right at the end even.


  659.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:03 pm
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Danica is also coming back into the pits (likely for a penalty).

Michael Annett actually led a lap through the green flag pit cycle.

The pit stops have REALLY broken up the lead pack as Kenseth is now out
in front.


  660.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:03 pm
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Denny looks like he's 8th-9th. His pit stop must've been quite slow.


  661.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:03 pm
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Jr. is back up to third. The Gibbs cars now have a sandwich between them.


  662.   Cumulonimbus posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:05 pm
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Vickers is in 4th at the moment. Really nice comeback after that early
race spin.


  663.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:05 pm
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Was just about to say Junior and Truex should make a move on Kenseth but
then I remembered Truex went to the Dark Side.


  664.   Against Charters posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:05 pm
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How would you guys rate the race so far


  665.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:05 pm
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Matt Kenseth is now in the lead.


  666.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:06 pm
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Come back and Jr. lost about 8 spots.


  667.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:06 pm
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Vickers is running fourth, who'd have thought it after he spun early in
this race?


  668.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:06 pm
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36 to go...
Kenseth, Truex, and Kyle Busch lead to put the Toyotas 1-2-3. Denny
Hamlin is back in the pack after taking four tires.


  669.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:07 pm
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"Vickers is in 4th at the moment. Really nice comeback after that early
race spin."

I'd like to see him win. As I type, MRN is complimenting his run,
complete with Rusty Wallace's "flat flying" remark".


  670.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:07 pm
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All 4 JGR cars are in the top 10. Ugh.


  671.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:07 pm
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Michael McDowell actually stopped in Ricky Stenhouse's pit stall and
held him up from making a pit stop for quite a while.


  672.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:07 pm
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Holy crap Vickers is up to 4th!
JD Bass Pro Stacies occupy the top 4.


  673.   Cumulonimbus posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:08 pm
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@664 I'd say it's average to boring. The outside lane doesn't seems to
work, which is bad news for the finish of this race as well. Hopefully
with the tighter pack in the final laps and some more aggressive pushing
they can overcome that.


  674.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:08 pm
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Those JGR cars today man there hooked up.


  675.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:08 pm
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Not the best race, but it's decent.


  676.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:08 pm
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WTF was McDowell doing?


  677.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:08 pm
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Now there are 14 cars in the lead lap as everyone else has fallen many
seconds behind. Pit stops really DID break up the field quite a bit.


  678.   murb posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:09 pm
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"WTF was McDowell doing?"

Michael McDowell stuff.


  679.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:09 pm
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3 lap interruption between breaks. TNT tips their cap to you, Fox.


  680.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:09 pm
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677- You mean lead pack, right?


  681.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:09 pm
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Que the "Kenziz is like David Pearson" after taking the lead late in the
race comparision.
Jeez I think we're up to a commercial every 2 laps.


  682.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:10 pm
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Starting to think JGR-powered cars (counting Truex) could sweep the top
5 today. They certainly look strong enough to do so (even Edwards has
made his way well up into the top 10).


  683.   Against Charters posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:10 pm
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There's gonna be a big one soon


  684.   murb posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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This is pretty much a carbon copy of 2008 with the Gibbs cars dominating
like this. Hopefully things will pick up in the end like it did in that
race.


  685.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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Jr. crashes!


  686.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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And Dale Earnhardt Jr. crashes.


  687.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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Crap.


  688.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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Jr wrecks.


Damn.....


  689.   Nucl3ar Wa4le posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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Jr wrecked!!!!


  690.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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Jr's about done.


  691.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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"677- You mean lead pack, right?"

Yeah, I meant lead pack. When you type fairly fast you tend to typo a lot...

JUNIOR has crashed! Aww, man...


  692.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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RIP Amelia


  693.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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Welp there goes Amelia.


  694.   Christian posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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Might as well renaming this race the Toyota 500. Hope NASCAR does
something to nerf JGR's dominance since last year.


  695.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:11 pm
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Someone gets loose off turn 4 again...


  696.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:12 pm
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Wasn't his best 500. Couldn't do anything in the pack.


  697.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:12 pm
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RIP Amelia. They're going to have to search for a new restrictor plate
car for Junior.

He was trying to make a big move on the outside, but like Chase Elliott
early in the race, he just snapped around off the fourth corner.


  698.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:12 pm
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There goes nearly everyone's pick in the Fantasy League, including mine.


  699.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:13 pm
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Man Jr


  700.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:13 pm
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Is that the same car that Jr. used in 2015? If so, it's junked.


  701.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:13 pm
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And we come right out of a Dale Earnhardt, Jr. Nationwide commercial
into Junebug crashing solo and taking his Nationwide #88 out of the
race. What a mood whiplash.

FOX is showing the fans in the stand frustrated about Earnhardt's day
coming to an early end.


  702.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:13 pm
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I called it. After 5 top 3 finishes in 6 years the law of averages
catches up with Dale Jr. in the Daytona 500. At least he was trying to
do something, but the track was too slick for that move.


  703.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:14 pm
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Not mine. I rarely ever pick my favorite drivers to win, kind of a jinx
theory. I picked Hamlin.


  704.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:15 pm
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This is why it's hard to get really excited about races for cheering for
a certain driver. All excited when I wake up in the morning. I don't
know, maybe lower my expectations...


  705.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:15 pm
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Fox trying to keep the ratings up with a Jr commercial


  706.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:15 pm
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Well, this will bunch up the cars on the lead lap again...

Seriously don't think anyone can beat the JGR brigade today. They just
look so strong that nobody is able to really get a run on them. The only
time Kenseth, Kyle, Truex, and Hamlin have really lost ground is in the
pits...


  707.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:16 pm
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No one is stopping these Gibbs cars.


  708.   Smiff_2 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:17 pm
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Truex, McMurray, Blaney, Vickers.

I'd be pleased-as-punch to see any of those 4 take this...


  709.   racefangurl posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:17 pm
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Calamity Corner is at it today.


  710.   Sean posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:17 pm
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Kenseth/Pearson comparisons are more laughable than calling Harvick "The
Closer" or Nemechek "Front Row Joe", both of which are also laughable
(at least considering the last two years when Harvick has been very much
a choker...)

Kenseth is more like a slightly more aggressive Mark Martin...


  711.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:17 pm
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First time in 2016 I'm saying this go Busch #18


  712.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:18 pm
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Calamity Corner is striking hard today. Calamity Coyote is still a dated
reference.


  713.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:18 pm
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"Calamity corner"

Ah yes, back in the day the stretch before the pits off turn 4 used to
have that big earthen embankment for a retaining barrier that would
shoot cars that hit it right back up the track or send them flipping
over. Thank goodness the track is no longer like that, but it's still a
pretty bad place to crash at...


  714.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:18 pm
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So far, I think this has been a good race, excluding the Gibbs domination.


  715.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:19 pm
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No one is stopping these Gibbs cars.

Only one can win the race. At this point, I don't think they're gonna
work together and lineup as friendly as they've been.


  716.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:20 pm
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Green with 25 to go!


  717.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:20 pm
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"Calamity Corner is striking hard today. Calamity Coyote is still a
dated reference."

How many people remember Tiny Toons? I was really little when that show
was on the air, but I vaguely remember it...


  718.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:20 pm
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Vickers is the top running Chevy. How about that?


  719.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:20 pm
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Then they lineup 1-2-3 moments after the green. Go figure.


  720.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:21 pm
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Man...having the two similarly painted Bass Pro Shops cars is REALLY
screwing with my mind. I hope they don't both run the same paint scheme
TOO many times this year...


  721.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:21 pm
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Kenseth pulls back ahead with 26 to go as we restart. Truex and Rowdy
follow.

Ryan Truex almost won the Truck race Friday night. Let's see if big
brother Martin, Jr. can still get the family a win this weekend.


  722.   Against Charters posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:22 pm
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@714 aren't you a Denny Hamlin fan


  723.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:22 pm
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If it has to be a Toyota, please let it be Truex.


  724.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:22 pm
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22 to go.
Vickers fighting for the lead!


  725.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:23 pm
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Pull those belts tight now, it's going to get wild.


  726.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:23 pm
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This is the first time in quite a while that the outside line has some
momentum.

Three-wide back in the pack. Things are starting to get REALLY hairy...


  727.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:23 pm
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Edwards is back on the lead lap and back in the top ten.


  728.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:24 pm
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Someone nearly wrecked back in the back, might've been Brian Scott? I
couldn't tell.


  729.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:24 pm
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Outside needs a conveyer belt to make it work.


  730.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:24 pm
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The big one is coming


  731.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:24 pm
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50 miles to go.


  732.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:25 pm
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19 to go.
Outside line not making much progress.


  733.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:25 pm
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Brian Scott stalls, Aric Almirola and Paul Menard were flowing him and
their draft stalled. But now all three are charging back into it.

Biffle's coming up fast in the middle mid-pack.


  734.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:26 pm
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FOX takes (what they say will be) their last commercial break.


  735.   Eldrick posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:26 pm
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How nice that Daytona has suddenly become a 1 groove track, so that
nobody can pass the cars that NASCAR doesn't want anyone to pass.

Go Vickers!!!!

Hell, go anybody but the Gibbs Toyotas.


  736.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:26 pm
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The outside line once again drops back. Nobody is beating the JGR train
today barring something miraculous.


  737.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:27 pm
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Danica Patrick slides through the grass! Caution is out.


  738.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:27 pm
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Coming down to the home stretch. It's going to be wild.

Danica spins and crashes.


  739.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:27 pm
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Danica went through the bus stop. Wrong race.


  740.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:27 pm
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Crash. Danica makes it 3 for 3 wrecking in Speedweeks.


  741.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:27 pm
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And Danica wrecks.


  742.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:27 pm
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And Danica skids through the grass on the backstretch and comes to a
halt in turn 3 with heavy nose damage. Caution #6.


  743.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:28 pm
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Danica off track and crashing. Caution is out.


  744.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:28 pm
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What a terrible race for Chevy.


  745.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:28 pm
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Greg Biffle also involved.


  746.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:28 pm
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Paul Menard heads for the pits with an overheating issue.

Patrick caught a little air in that one.


  747.   murb posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:28 pm
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Wow, there was no way in hell she was ever gonna make that work.


  748.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:28 pm
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Danica tried to block Biffle and took both of them out. Danica got a ton
of airtime.


  749.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:28 pm
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Biffle also involved.

MAN, Danica really got some air there sailing through the grass.


  750.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:29 pm
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Danica had some air.


  751.   Smiff_2 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:29 pm
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Danica went for a RIDE lol


  752.   1995z71 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:29 pm
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New year, same ole wrecking ball Danica.


  753.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:30 pm
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Danica's spotter must've been sleeping.


  754.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:30 pm
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Biffle's Colonel suit isn't as spiffy as Rahal's Steak and Shake suit.


  755.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:30 pm
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I don't know what the hell she was doing there. She blocked Biffle and
started turning herself sideways, then when Biffle tried to move himself
down she tried to cut him off again.


  756.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:30 pm
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Somehow Danica is still on the lead lap despite driving a modified car.


  757.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:30 pm
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Biffle is probably going to get blamed for that one...Looked to me like
Danica tried to come down to block and Greg was already there.

Danica continues with the whole nose peeled off the car.


  758.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:30 pm
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First Jr, then Danica, now we need Kyle to spin. Then the 3 fan
favorites will crash.


  759.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:31 pm
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What's with all the Toyota hate


  760.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:31 pm
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Maybe things will pick up once the Toyota's start racing each other...
Oh who am I kidding.
They are gonna wait until calamity corner on the final lap to try and
pass each other.


  761.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:31 pm
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Regan Smith quietly having a great run just outside the top ten.


  762.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:33 pm
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Now she goes to the garage. No way in hell she was gonna be up to speed.


  763.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:33 pm
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Forget post 756. She went to the garage. And I have no clue what she was
doing in that crash.


  764.   Sean posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:33 pm
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So Kenseth is probably going to be leading a JGR freight train on the
bottom with Logano (with 4 tires no less) leading the opposition on the
outside on the restart. I don't like this. I don't like this at all.


  765.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:33 pm
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I will be absolutely STUNNED if we don't have another caution after
this. Restarting with a little more than 10 laps to go in the Daytona
500? Definitely a recipe for chaos.

Danica goes to the garage and is probably done for the day.


  766.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:33 pm
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Danica going to the garage; by the looks of it, she's pissed.


  767.   Against Charters posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:34 pm
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I'm a Chevy guy no Toyota


  768.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:34 pm
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This "unlimited overtime" garbage is getting overhyped big time.
It's only unlimited for a meager 1/2 lap and the rest of the 1.5 laps it
can end under yellow.


  769.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:35 pm
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"Danica going to the garage; by the looks of it, she's pissed."

I can already envision her calling out Biffle for not backing off to let
her in...


  770.   Smiff_2 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:35 pm
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This should be interesting. Hopefully, it's safe.


  771.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:35 pm
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Green is out.


  772.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:35 pm
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Fox has been advertising the Toyota injection point for Daytona all the
time, Daytona's pace car is a Toyota, Toyota has the top 5.

Go figure.


  773.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:36 pm
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Oh yay, JGR powered cars are the first 5 on the inside line...


  774.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:36 pm
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I do have to give props to Logano for sticking it out on the outside.
Otherwise we would all be single file


  775.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:36 pm
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Logano helping Kenseth? Did I miss something?


  776.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:36 pm
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Wow. JGR has a monopoly on the inside line.


  777.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:36 pm
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Please no one end up in the catchfence


  778.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:36 pm
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Come on, someone has to go. They can't wait until the last lap.


  779.   Against Charters posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:37 pm
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Hope kenseth doesn't win


  780.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:37 pm
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10 to go!
Kenseth still in front.


  781.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:37 pm
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775, Tried to push Kenseth ahead enough to get himself under Truex for
2nd. Then Dillon had a Gordon restart and he was hung out to dry.


  782.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:37 pm
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"Fox has been advertising the Toyota injection point for Daytona all the
time, Daytona's pace car is a Toyota, Toyota has the top 5.

Go figure."

Got a bad feeling JGR is going to own the rest of the field this year...


  783.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:37 pm
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Toyotas are 1-2-3-4-5 with 9 to go. Carl Edwards has rejoined the leaders.


  784.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:38 pm
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Regan Smith is up in the top-10 but the #7 Chevy is blowing water like
crazy!


  785.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:38 pm
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Regan Smith is overheating big time.


  786.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:38 pm
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Reminds me when Ford whooped the field at Daytona in 2000.


  787.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:38 pm
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Smith is blowing up. Are you kidding me?


  788.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:39 pm
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Regan has a little hurricane out of his hood.


  789.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:39 pm
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Cmon Kyle make a move


  790.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:39 pm
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7 to go.
Kenseth pretty much has this. The outside has no momentum.


  791.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:40 pm
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Regan Smith is overheating.


  792.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:40 pm
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The Gibbs brigade have cleared the outside lines.


  793.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:40 pm
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Why is the outside so bad this year?


  794.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:40 pm
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Truex better not pull a Biffle and settle for second.


  795.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:40 pm
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I'd laugh aftter all this a Ford or Chevy wins.


  796.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:41 pm
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5 to go. Can they make it back without crashing? And which of the JGR
cars is going to emerge victorious?


  797.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:41 pm
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5 to go.


  798.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:41 pm
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"If you're gonna make a move, do it off of turn four" - DW

Clearly DW hasn't been watching any plate racing the past few years.


  799.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:42 pm
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Harvick making a move up top. Come on!


  800.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:42 pm
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3 to go. Kenseth has this.


  801.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:42 pm
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Of course, there it is.
"Let's just wait until the white flag".


  802.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:42 pm
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The outside line is alongside Edwards for fifth with 3 to go.


  803.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:42 pm
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Harvick is getting the slightest bit of momentum. At least hes trying.


  804.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:42 pm
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Joe Gibbs Racing picks up it's first Daytona 500 win in 23 years.


  805.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:42 pm
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Toyota still 1-2-3-4-5 with 2 to go.


  806.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:42 pm
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Tick tock...


  807.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:43 pm
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Come on! Go Harvick!


  808.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:44 pm
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White flag!


  809.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:44 pm
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Two to go. Will any of the Gibbs cars try to go to the inside?

I hope they don't crash on the last lap and gift wrap the win for
Kenseth...But they probably will...

White flag as Hamlin tries to go to the outside!


  810.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:44 pm
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They're gonna wreck...


  811.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:44 pm
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TRUEX!!!


  812.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:44 pm
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OH MY f**kING GOD!!


  813.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:44 pm
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Who is it?


  814.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:44 pm
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Never mind. Hamlin got it.


  815.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:44 pm
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What. A. FINISH!!!!!


  816.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:45 pm
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WHO WON IT?


  817.   murb posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:45 pm
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Alright, that was worth it. Hell of a finish.


  818.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:45 pm
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Hamlin wins the Daytona 500!


  819.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:45 pm
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Hamlin did win, but wow.


  820.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:45 pm
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crap, its hamlin. That's as close as Craven/Busch at Darlington


  821.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:45 pm
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Good job to Hamlin to not stay in line. What a finish!


  822.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:45 pm
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Kenseth skids up high off turn 4 trying to block Hamlin on the outside
line, and Hamlin holds off Truex in what is the closest Daytona 500
finish ever!


  823.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:45 pm
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DONALD TRUMP IS LEFT HANDED!


  824.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:45 pm
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WHAT A FINISH!! HOLY SHIT! Closest 500 finish ever!!


  825.   jabber1990 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:46 pm
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...this is going to be an ugly next 36 hours on NASCAR.com


  826.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:46 pm
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Finish was awesome, race was shit.


  827.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:46 pm
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Of all the years for the antenna to conk out. Congratulations to Denny
Hamlin!


  828.   murb posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:46 pm
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Damn, that's a heartbreaker for Truex though. Had the lead until like
the last ten feet before the line.


  829.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:46 pm
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What was the margin of victory in seconds? I seriously think that's
closer than 2003 Darlington.


  830.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:47 pm
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Hamlin nipped him at the line. That is the first time in a long time
I've seen one so close I couldn't tell who won at first glance.


  831.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:47 pm
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Damn. I thought Truex had it. But you know what? Congrats to Denny. He
was probably the best car all race long, and he deserved it. And he was
my fantasy pick! And what a finish too. Pretty boring race overall but
that finish made up for it.


  832.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:47 pm
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Overall, that was a pretty good race. Great battling throughout, and an
INSANE finish. The Gibbs pack dominated severely however, which knocks
it down a bit.


  833.   Against Charters posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:47 pm
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Good finish decent race at least kenseth didn't win


  834.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:48 pm
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Like 2007, this will go down as a meh race with an awesome finish with a
sentimental favorite barley losing. Hate that for Truex.


  835.   Anonymous posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:48 pm
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Feel so bad that Truex didn't win. Second yet again.


  836.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:48 pm
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Well, at least they saved the best for the last lap! Makes up for the
Gibbs party leading the inside line almost the whole way through...At
least they made it exciting at the end!

Kenseth is lucky he didn't wreck off the last corner, when he got loose
I thought he was going to spin and take out half the field there. Nice
to see a Daytona 500 without the big one!

Gotta feel bummed for Truex, he lost the Daytona 500 by a mere one-one
hundreth of a second. That's gotta suck losing by THAT little...


  837.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:48 pm
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Kenseth went from 1st to 12th in 1/3 lap.


  838.   John Royal posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:49 pm
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Truex did not learn from Elliots Xfinity win.

You HAVE to push lock the opponents car and force it uphill and kill the
momentum.


  839.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:49 pm
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Also, Hamlin becomes the first driver in 24 years to win the Daytona 500
after leading at halfway.


  840.   What a Joke posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:50 pm
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That awful display of team orders would make teams like Scuderia Ferrari
proud. I really wish NASCAR used BoP to penalize the hell out of this
Gibbs Toyotas.


  841.   Sean posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:50 pm
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0.011 seconds. Other plate races have been closer (1993 DieHard 500,
1994 Pepsi 400, 2007 Pepsi 400...or was it Coke Zero by then? Don't
remember...)


  842.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:50 pm
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Complete mirror of the 2007 Daytona 500 Finish. A driver comes from far
back on the outside to win it by inches.


  843.   Lucstar88 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:51 pm
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Finish was great, but the race itself wasn't that good.
High line was never able to go.
5/10.


  844.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:51 pm
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"Also, Hamlin becomes the first driver in 24 years to win the Daytona
500 after leading at halfway."

Glad someone else noticed. MRN noted that the last one to do it was
Davey Allison in 1992.


  845.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:51 pm
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Got the feeling this is going to be listed in the future as one of the,
if not THE, greatest Daytona 500s of all time thanks to the finish. It
certainly was a hell of a nail-biter, but considering the sheer
domination of JGR today, I'm not sure I would call it one of the best
ever. Then again the '98 500 usually ranks VERY high on lists of
greatest 500s and races ever run due to Earnhardt finally winning the
race, and that race as a whole was not a very good one...

I think Regan Smith eked out a top 10!


  846.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:52 pm
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WTG Denny!
The only Gibbs driver willing to pull out and make something happen
deserves to win it.
Gut-wrenching for Truex, but he didn't try to make anything happen,
Hamlin coming on the high side make Kenseth open the bottom for him.
That finish though!
And they made it the last 8 laps without going insane and wrecking.


  847.   Neal posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:52 pm
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The finish prevented this from being a completely forgettable race.


  848.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:53 pm
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Also, I hate to say it...but I think JGR may be on the verge of the next
dynasty in NASCAR...


  849.   Clint posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:53 pm
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Saying that this was a great race because of the finish is asinine. The
whole race it was a complete snoozer no one could pass anyone on track.
Denny got one run and i think that was the only pass for the lead in the
last 150 laps.


  850.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:53 pm
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Also what a save by Kenseth on the last lap. That could've easily caused
a huge wreck, and knowing NASCAR they would've called a caution which
would've spoiled the great finish.


  851.   murb posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:53 pm
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The finish was a mirror of 2007, but the race itself was a mirror of
2008 with nobody being able to challenge the JGR cars (even though the
Penske cars finally did it in 2008).

So not a bad race at all in my opinion. I wish it could have been more
competitive, but the racing and finish were good enough for me.


  852.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:53 pm
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"2007 Pepsi 400...or was it Coke Zero by then?"

Nope. Coke took over the next year.


  853.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:53 pm
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This is the first time a non-American brand has ever won the Daytona
500. Toyota wins its first Daytona 500 and its first Cup race at Daytona
since 2008.


  854.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:54 pm
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Congrats to Hamlin, for having guts to for the win and slamming his own
teammate out of the way.

But at the same time, seeing how far the outside line caught up when
Hamlin was leading it makes me feel that we got robbed of a good race.


  855.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:55 pm
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Hamlin is my favorite of the 4 Gibbs drivers. That isn't saying much tbh.


  856.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:55 pm
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Where did Regan Smith finish with that overheating #7?


  857.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:56 pm
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Smith got a top ten. Good for him.


  858.   Ivan Balakhonov posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:56 pm
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20 laps to go I was willing to bet anything on Matt winning this thing.
There was no way he could lose the race, thought I. Well, when it
mattered most he choked. Gutsy move by Hamlin, well done! Still, not
impressed with the race in general.


  859.   Bradley posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:57 pm
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Margin of victory was .001 seconds.


  860.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:57 pm
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Kenseth was leading going into the last corner, and wound up 14th. That
has to suck knowing you were THAT close to winning the 500 only to end
up that far back.

Kyle Larson finishes the Daytona 500 for the first time in his third
start...and scores a top 10 finish.

And Mike Wheeler, so far, is 1-for-1 in points-paying races as a NASCAR
crew chief.


  861.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:58 pm
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@859 Then that's the closest finish ever.


  862.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:58 pm
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"Margin of victory was .001 seconds."

Actually it was 0.011 seconds. Otherwise it would have been the closest
finish in NASCAR history.


  863.   The Great Dave posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:58 pm
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Margin of victory was 0.011 actually


  864.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:58 pm
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I had a funny feeling this afternoon that this might just be Denny
Hamlin's year to win the Daytona 500. Can't attribute that to anything
though, except dumb luck.

Hamlin becomes the first driver since Dale Jarrett in 2000 to win the
Shootout/Unlimited and the 500 in the same Speedweeks.


  865.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:58 pm
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Matt was laughing because he couldn't believe it.


  866.   John Royal posted:
  02.21.2016 - 4:59 pm
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Finally Toyota gets it's 500 win, which is fitting as it is more
American than the domestic brands of today.


  867.   Ernest T. posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:00 pm
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The first of 20+ Sprint Cup wins for the JGR Toyotas in 2016.


  868.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:00 pm
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Regan with an 8th nice.


  869.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:00 pm
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It was 0.011 actually.

Great top tens for Larson, Dillon, and Regan Smith!


  870.   Baxter posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:00 pm
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Regan Smith 8th, Kids Eat Free at Golden Corral.


  871.   BluesTravelerFan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:02 pm
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I've always wondered what would happen if two cars were to ever end in a
dead heat. Highly unlikely of course, but I'd love to know.


  872.   Baxter posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:02 pm
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Disappointed Truex did not get the win, but happy for Hamlin. He was
certainly the best driver of the race. What a great race though. No
manipulation by NASCAR, no major accidents, just pure racing. Still wish
Truex would win though.


  873.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:02 pm
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The Coca-Cola ad was completely blocking Hamlin's face as he was
climbing out of his car. Fail.


  874.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:03 pm
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Toyota has won the Daytona 500 and the Indianapolis 500, joining at
least Ford, Chevrolet, and Oldsmobile in achieving that feat. We'll have
to see if they can FINALLY get the monkey off their back and win at Le
Mans later this year. They have a class win at the Bathurst 1000 too but
never won at Monaco despite pouring their hearts into F1 in the 2000s.


  875.   The Long Shot posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:03 pm
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Nice top 15 for Michael McDowell and the second Leavine team.


  876.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:04 pm
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The Truex's finish 2nd in both the Cup and Truck race this week.


  877.   Jolly Mean Giant posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:04 pm
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"I've always wondered what would happen if two cars were to ever end in
a dead heat. Highly unlikely of course, but I'd love to know."

Would they do a tiebreaker (based on laps led, average running position,
where they are points, etc.)? Somehow I can't see NASCAR let TWO drivers
be given credit as the winners of a race...


  878.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:04 pm
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The #11 wins the Daytona 500 for the first time since 1977 with Cale
Yarborough.

I'm giving RaceFanX a run for his money today. ;)


  879.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:06 pm
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Hamlin nearly dropped Harely twice.


  880.   New 14 & 88 Fan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:07 pm
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Even though the JGR parade stunk up the middle of the race the finish
more than made up for that. Really thought Truex had pulled it off but
hats off to Hamlin for his gutsy move at the end.


  881.   Baxter posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:07 pm
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Hamlin, who drove the 11 for his whole Cup career, wins the 500 in his
11th try, where the margin is 0.011s. Cool.


  882.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:08 pm
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"I've always wondered what would happen if two cars were to ever end in
a dead heat. Highly unlikely of course, but I'd love to know."

It's happened before. Not for the win, but Buddy Baker and Cale
Yarborough finished in a dead heat for third in the 1974 Firecracker
400. NASCAR credited them both with a third-place finish.


  883.   Baxter posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:09 pm
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Truly a photo finish since I had no clue who won. From above it looks
like Truex, but when you really see the photo, it is clearly Hamlin.
Truex and the Gibbs cars will definitely be the best this year I think.


  884.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:10 pm
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"I've always wondered what would happen if two cars were to ever end in
a dead heat. Highly unlikely of course, but I'd love to know."

They have an extra race with only those two drivers, like in CARS. (lol jk)


  885.   jabber1990 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:11 pm
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I thought it was truex, then they showed the replay of the same camera
angle and I STILL thought it was Truex


  886.   RaceFanX posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:13 pm
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"I'm giving RaceFanX a run for his money today. ;)"

Feel free, I love seeing posts like that.


  887.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:14 pm
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Here's another one for the stats folks. When Darrell Waltrip won the
Daytona 500, it was in his 17th try in car #17. When Denny Hamlin won,
it was in his 11th try in car #11.


  888.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:15 pm
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^ Denny Hamlin is 11 letters long.


  889.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:17 pm
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Here's a hypothetical thing if Kenseth won:

If Kenseth won 2016, all 3 of his 500 triumphs came 16 years after Dale
Jarrett's wins.

2016-16 = 2000
2012-16 = 1996
2009-16 = 1993


  890.   Sean posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:18 pm
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"It's happened before. Not for the win, but Buddy Baker and Cale
Yarborough finished in a dead heat for third in the 1974 Firecracker
400. NASCAR credited them both with a third-place finish."

There was a tie in an IROC race too.

I liked that there was no real carnage (for once), some long green flag
runs, largely seeing the fastest drivers run the best, and that there
was minimal manipulation, but it was dull seeing almost all the lead
changes in the pits followed by long runs when nobody could pass
anybody. Not a great package...

Salvaged by an amazingly unexpected final lap, so in the end, it comes
out as a slightly above average 500 but I don't think an amazing finish
necessarily makes the race. The lack of carnage helps...


  891.   Sean posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:19 pm
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I would have been annoyed if Kenseth had come out the victor after never
taking the lead on track, being way out to lunch in 17th, then jumping
from 17th to the lead on a pit stop exchange and simply never being
passed. I'm glad that didn't happen as a result. I'm glad Logano didn't
end up leading the outside line in the end either, because I would not
want to have seen something Fontana 2013-esque on a plate track...


  892.   Matt L posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:20 pm
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I thought Truex had it at the line. Soooooo disappointed the #78 didn't
end up in Victory Lane, but Hamlin beat him fair and square.

Glad Regan Smith's engine held on for him to earn a top 10. Kids eat for
free tomorrow at Golden Corral lol.


  893.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:23 pm
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Regan Smith could finish in the 20 in points if he stays out of trouble.
Driving for JRM the past few years has really helped him.


  894.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:30 pm
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Just viewed the finish, courtesy of NASCAR.com. What a amazing turn of
events. Props to Kenseth for saving that car.


  895.   joey2448 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:37 pm
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I can't help but be reminded of the 2007 Daytona 500 finish when Harvick
was pushed to the win on the backstretch of the final lap by Kenseth.
Now, Harvick was the one doing the pushing, as he pushed Hamlin to the
win, ironically by Kenseth.


  896.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:45 pm
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Hard to believe it had taken Toyota 9 years to win the 500. It is even
more impressive that a team plan worked out the way it did for 200 laps.
Had Truex won the photo finish, this might be more well received than oh
Hamlin won to no ones surprise after Kenseth moved up to block.
All in all, a so so average 500


  897.   joey2448 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:46 pm
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Man I'm just now coming down from the high of that finish. What an
amazing race! I rank this finish among the top 3 of Daytona 500's, up
there with 2007 and 1976.

I'm still dumbfounded how they didn't wreck in the final laps,
especially Kenseth in turn 4 final lap.


  898.   someone posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:50 pm
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Great comeback for Carl Edwards. Fifth place despite a front row seat to
the first three accidents, as well as sustaining quite a bit of damage
and being a lap down for a good 60 laps.


  899.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:51 pm
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Austin Dillon has become quite the Daytona ace. Since driving the 3 car,
he has 4 top ten's in 5 starts.


  900.   Sector posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:53 pm
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Have anyone ever noticed that Chase Elliott has won the pole for the #24
car for the 24th year in a row?


  901.   Anonymous posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:53 pm
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I'm telling you Regan Smith and that #7 team will be the surprise team
of the season.


  902.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 5:54 pm
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NASCAR Victory Lane isn't on until 1:00am?
FFS FOX..


  903.   Anonymous posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:03 pm
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This is a serious question: Will Dale Jr win a race this year? I'm not
saying he won't, I just hope he does.


  904.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:05 pm
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Sponsor Updates
#42 Target/Cottonelle
#47 Kroger/Scott Products/Kingsford
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#44 Albertsons/Shore Lodge/Ritz Triscuit

Owner Update
#40 Mike Hillman


  905.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:05 pm
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^Ah, our lovely friend Anonymous the pessimistic Dale Jr. fan is back.
Where would we be without you?


  906.   Jessie Henry posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:05 pm
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This Will Go Down As The Worst Daytona 500 Of All Time


  907.   Tyson posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:07 pm
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"This Will Go Down As The Worst Daytona 500 Of All Time"

Clearly you missed the 2013 race.


  908.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:08 pm
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At least he is optimistic about Jr's chances and not the usual "Oh god!
Dale Jr wrecked his best car, he's never gonna finish in the top ten let
alone win again!"


  909.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:08 pm
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906- I believe this may be the page that you're looking for:

http://racing-reference.info/race/2000_Daytona_500/W


  910.   DB1995 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:18 pm
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not a very good race, 199 laps were lackluster and a great final lap
attempted to make up for it.


  911.   murb posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:34 pm
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Out of the 18 or so Daytona 500s I've watched live (give or take - I was
a really little kid in the late 90s/super early 2000s, so I'm a little
fuzzy on whether or not I watched 1998-2000 live, but of course I have
gone back and seen them in their entirety later on regardless), this
wasn't even like one of the nine or ten worst. I can say with full
confidence that 2000, 2013, 1998, 2004, 2003, 2009, 2006, 2007 (yes,
despite the finish the actual race was kind of an atrocity, as has been
pointed out already), and 2012 (I don't think the racing was good enough
to make up for all of the exhausting wackiness) were all worse than
this, and many of them were WAY worse than this.

Like I said, this year was akin to 2008 in that other than up at the
front (unfortunately), the racing was fairly good (which I think sets it
apart from 2007 even though the finish was more comparable to 2007), and
then of course all hell breaking loose at the end and the amazing finish
pretty much made up for everything. So yeah, not even close to one of
the worst 500s I've ever watched, and if you really want to look at all
58 Daytona 500s, then that statement looks even more ridiculous.


  912.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:39 pm
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The 2000 Daytona 500 had the possibility of Johnny Benson pulling an
upset win over the fleet running Fords, the Earnhardts together for the
first time in the 500, Bill Elliott's week of resurgence, and Dale
Jarrett's juggernaut of a Speedweeks having to overcome repairs from a
late happy hour scuffle.

The 2013 Daytona 500 had Danica and well not much of anything else.

The on track racing in both were horrendous and worthy of their place at
the bottom of the Daytona 500s of the past 20 years. However, based on
intriguing subplots outside of the usual new teams with new drivers, I
guess I will take the 2000 500 in a squeaker.


  913.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 6:40 pm
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Pretty sure there was a 500 in the 60's worse than all of those.


  914.   Blue Palaski posted:
  02.21.2016 - 7:30 pm
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What A Finish. That was worth the 2 1/2 month wait.


  915.   Karen32f posted:
  02.21.2016 - 7:39 pm
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Is NASCAR no longer posting prize money?


  916.   WinstonCupStandings posted:
  02.21.2016 - 7:44 pm
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Top 10
1) Denny Hamlin (185) -Leader
2) Martin Truex, Jr. (175) -10
3) Kyle Busch (170) -15
4) Kevin Harvick (160) -25
5) Carl Edwards (155) -30
6) Joey Logano (150) -35
7) Kyle Larson (146) -39
8) Austin Dillon (143) -42
9) Regan Smith (142) -43
10) Ryan Newman (135) -50


  917.   bleedingreen925 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 7:45 pm
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I'm sure there were races in the '60s and early '70s where the winner
finished several laps ahead of 2nd place. That would be a boring 500.
Say what you want about the shitty points system, but that finish is
what racing is all about.


  918.   SpeedWorld97 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 7:57 pm
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"Finally Toyota gets it's 500 win, which is fitting as it is more
American than the domestic brands of today."

I have to respectfully disagree with this statement. Over half of the
parts that go on Toyota vehicles (including the Camry) come from Mexico,
which is also where some of their assembly plants are located. Even
their Japanese competitor Honda has more of a presence in the U.S. than
Toyota. Now the same statement you made could be applied to Chevrolet
and Ford (assembly plants in Canada), but don't say that Toyota products
are more domestic than Chevrolet and Ford.

A major reason why many (myself included) hate Toyota in racing is
because they invest millions of dollars into racing but use very little
of it to actually improve their street cars. In fact, I would say Toyota
has established themselves as a boring car manufacturer considering
there is nothing "performance" about any of their cars, no matter how
misleading their Camry or Prius commercials are. At least Ford (Ford
Performance, the GT, Mustang, and even the Taurus) and Chevrolet (the
Corvette, Camaro, SS Sedan, and their Performance car parts line) allow
the customer to own at least a similar performance variation of what
NASCAR stock cars have, especially considering that the SS has a small
block V8 like the Sprint Cup car. Toyota is too concerned with appealing
to the eco-friendly, non-car enthusiasts that they can't even fathom
experimenting putting a V8 engine into their street Camry, thus making
their racing efforts seem almost pointless in relation to their
non-performance street car lineup.

Well I have to say that this is probably one of the few Cup races that I
am going to watch this year. It was frustrating watching the same Gibbs
cars manipulate every restart and basically prevent a good overall race
from taking place. The finish was spectacular, no doubt, but it was not
enough to make up for the lackluster race where JGR dictated all the
racing above 10th place. When the biggest race of the Sprint Cup season
cannot have a good show for the fans, then I don't have high hopes for
the rest of the season. I hope I'm wrong, but that is just how I see it,
especially since NASCAR is going to the low-downforce package for the
season. Of course, JGR is in a league of their own with that too...


  919.   24FanForever - Lets do this - Chase4TheW posted:
  02.21.2016 - 8:06 pm
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HOW is this the worst Daytona 500? It may have been a little lack
luster, but it was nowhere near so bad ones. Now that I think about it
I'm going to make a list of Daytona 500s ranked from this century.

17. 2000 Daytona 500

Boring, very little lead changes and the whole time it was follow the
leader, and the race finished under caution. 1.5/10

16. 2003 Daytona 500

The race itself was good, but it was the shortest Daytona 500 ever,
being just over 100 laps. Not to mention Michael Waltrip won it. 2/10

15. 2013 Daytona 500

Very boring. Not to mention the lack of action and very anti-climatic
finish. A definite skip. 2.1/10

14. 2007 Daytona 500

This finish overrates the race to the extreme. Most of the race it was
follow the leader and then in the final 15 laps it was a wreck fest. No
thanks 3.5/10

13. 2015 Daytona 500

The beginning of this one is pure boring. The final 30 laps makes up for
it though, but of course, it ends under yellow. 5.3/10

12. 2016 Daytona 500

Now that I think about it, in 2015 and 2016 both races are very similar.
This one though kinda kept you on your toes unlike 2015 so it barely
gets ahead. But really why has 'Daytona Day' just happened this year?
C'mon NASCAR. But the finish was pretty great. Can't get more classic
than that. 5.5/10

11. 2012 Daytona 500

Most notable for Montoya's incident, this race was just okay. It was at
times either a wreck fest or typical pack racing. Moving along 6/10

10. 2008 Daytona 500

Falls under the "Just okay" category. It had its highs and lows. Not
much to it. 7/10

9. 2009 Daytona 500

Honestly if this race ended under green, it would be a lot higher. It
had fun racing and we saw a lot of no names run upfront. Rain Rain. 7.5/10

8. 2005 Daytona 500

Ehhhh, it may be a little biased, mainly because Gordon won, but it had
a lot of good racing. The problem was it was a wreck fest! 7.6/10

7. 2011 Daytona 500

Wrecks. Wrecks. Wrecks. Too many really hurt this list, not to mention 2
car tandem. But in the end we at least saw a MAJOR underdog steal the
win with Wood Brothers. Great finish but slow race. 7.7/10

6. 2010 Daytona 500

The thing that makes me like this race so much on how normal it was
(Besides the pothole..) The racing was good, the wrecks were limited,
and we saw a good man win the race. Enough to make me happy. 8/10

5. 2006 Daytona 500

Seriously underrated. This race was crazy! It was a foggy, wet day and
the conditions on track were harsh. A lot of bonehead moves on drivers.
Only thing that holds it back was the anti-climatic finish. 8.1/10

4. 2004 Daytona 500

Great race. We saw some great racing and a great story for a man who
lost is father 3 years ago. Jr. Had a fast car and showed everyone it.
Only problem was the 2nd half was kinda meh, as in racing but it really
represented 60's style of racing. 8.3/10

3. 2002 Daytona 500

Man, what a classic! The racing was awesome, the drivers were awesome,
and the finish was madness! My only complaint would be too many crashes.
Most notable was Sterling Marlin. Bro. 8.6/10

2. 2014 Daytona 500

At first, the first 30 or so laps of this race was like 2013. I was
quite disappointed. But once they fired it up and it was night time it
was an entirely different race. It had everything a NASCAR fan would
love. great racing, great drvers, great well, everything! It was so fun
to watch and I wasn't even sad when Gordon lost. This race is why I want
the Daytona 500 to be night and the Coke Zero 400 to be day. Both races
that year were fantastic. 9/10

1. 2001 Daytona 500

Yes. The ultimate race. Probably the best one. Ever. If you need to know
why watch it on you tube. It was fantastic. Everything a NASCAR fan
would LOVE. the ONLY thing bad is well, you know, we lost a legend that
day. He will always be remembered. 9.9/10

Well that's my list. Very well is debatable, so care to post whatever
you like or dislike about it. Looking forward to next week already!


  920.   RaceFanX posted:
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The most boring Daytona 500 was likely the 1972 race. After Richard
Petty fell out 20 laps before halfway A.J. Foyt dominated the event and
faced no serious challenges throughout the second half of the race other
than one move to miss a wreck. Foyt won by more than a lap over Charlie
Glotzbach. Even the Daytona 500 commemorative DVD set celebrating the
race's 50th anniversary with highlights of all prior races iced over
most of this one.


  921.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 8:20 pm
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Here's how I would rank the 500's in the last 20 years from best to worst:

2001
1999
2002
2005
2010
1997
2006
2014
2016
2007
2015
2008
1998
2011
2009
2003
2012
2000
2004
2013


  922.   Braindead Zombie posted:
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1. 2007
2. 2014
3. 2002
4. 2001 (Would be higher if Earnhardt hadn't died)
5. 2010 (Would be in the top three, maybe second if not for the pothole
incident)
6. 2016 (Would be around tenth if not for the amazing finish)
7. 2005
8. 2008
9. 2006
10. 2009 (Would probably be higher if not for the rain-shortened ending)
11. 2015
12. 2003 (See 2009)
13. 2004
14. 2012
15. 2011 (Most people either think this was an all-time great race or an
all-time fluke, I'm of the second opinion, never cared for the tandem
draft)
16. 2013
17. 2000

Notice that I have the ones that ended at night (with the exception of
2012) generally ranked higher than the ones that were run only during
the day.


  923.   24FanForever - Lets do this - Chase4TheW posted:
  02.21.2016 - 8:52 pm
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Why does someone dislike everyone's comment? Super annoying knowing that
it's not real feedback


  924.   Anonymous posted:
  02.21.2016 - 8:58 pm
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@923, I'm curious as to why it matters if someone downvotes your
comment. It's a button that serves no real purpose.


  925.   Evan posted:
  02.21.2016 - 9:28 pm
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A few thoughts
* I never ever see Denny Hamlin's points paying plate wins, I never saw
the end of Talladega in 2013 because I had to run an errand and I never
saw the ending of this one because I had to fill in for an injured
co-worker. But best thing is, I don't see the finishes to get upset
about it.
* Denny Hamlin joins Davey Allison as the only drivers to lead the
Daytona 500 at halfway and win, that record stood for 24 years until
Hamlin broke it.
* Toyota cleaned up at Daytona, they really seemed to have the best cars
all Speedweeks, no one could do anything with Hamlin all week, so really
it wasn't a big shocker.
In the end, that's just how racing goes. I don't really see Hamlin as a
good plate racer, but in the end he won. Like I said before, Hamlin came
in talking about religion, and how he was a fan of NASCAR and how he was
a Bill Elliott and Joe Gibbs fan-boy and was in the stands to see Jeff
Gordon win the Martinsville races in 2003. Denny had a Trevor Bayne-like
personality and a nice down home persona, someone I could really follow
and appreciate. But once he started winning races and hanging out with
Paris Hilton, Michael Jordan among others he got very full of himself
and he just lost all of that good wholesome personality he had and that
just made me sour on him. I understand and accept it, and that's the way
it goes some days.


  926.   TS1420 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 10:01 pm
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My Daytona 500 rankings.
1 - 2001 (Despite the tragedy of the final lap, this was a really great
500. The blade across the roof and wicker bill on the spoiler really
provided a great restrictor plate package as evidenced in the 2000
Winston 500 and all the 2001 plate races.)

2 - 2010 (I really liked this race. Lot's of good racing, drivers being
able to make passes without help. The pot-hole red-flag was the only
mark against it)

3 - 2008 (This would be my number 1 favorite had Smoke won)

4 - 2002 (Crazy race, finish was kind of ho-hum though)

5 - 2005 (Pretty good race. Bummed that Smoke got shuffled out of the
lead and nobody would work with him or in the case of Jimmie Johnson,
blocking him)

6 - 2014 (Solid race other than the rain delay)

7 - 2007 (This race is pretty underrated. The beginning was good and
very end was fan-freakin-tastic. It was the middle part that boring)

8 - 2016 (I feel it could have been a top five Daytona 500 if the
Gibb's/FRR Toyota's weren't so damn strong & decided to band together.
The racing before the armada got up front was really good and THAT FINISH)

9 - 2004 (A lot more boring then what I remembered it to be, but was
pretty much a throwback to a 90's plate race)

10 - 2015 (Uneventful race. Started to get good at the end but NASCAR
threw the damn caution and ruined the finish)

11 - 2011 (The goddamn tandem took over plate racing, Tony got saddled
with Mark Martin who was afraid to push & then in hindsight it was won
by Derrike Cope 2.0)

12 - 2009 (This race could have been good, business really picked up
before the rain. But FOX & The Simpson's killed it before the drivers
were even out of their cars)

13 - 2003 (A rain & caution filled race that was prematurely killed by
FOX & The Simpson's)

14 - 2006 (The bland foggy blah, Smoke taking a car capable of winning
and using it as a battering ram & Jimmie winning)

15 - 2012 (Other than the craziness that surrounded this race, it was
pretty uneventful)

16 - 2013 (They went two-wide like once and ultimately it won Jimmie the
race)

17 - 2000 (First 500 I watched flag to flag, what a bore)


  927.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 10:13 pm
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"2014 (Solid race other than the rain delay)"

The rain delay in that race ended up being a blessing in disguise. The
first few laps of that race before the rain delay were really boring
IIRC. Then when they restarted it at night it was amazing all the rest
of the way. Of course my favorite driver winning helps, but even if he
didn't win, that was a great race. IMO this race is all the proof you
need that the Daytona 500 should be moved back to its late 2000s
starting time where it would end at night.


  928.   David posted:
  02.21.2016 - 10:36 pm
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"IMO this race is all the proof you need that the Daytona 500 should be
moved back to its late 2000s starting time where it would end at night."

I could go along with this, provided that they move the July race to a
Sunday afternoon slot, like it used to be.


  929.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 10:55 pm
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Either the Unlimited or Duels need to be moved to the daytime. It's
stupid how they are at night even though the 500 is during the day. The
drivers have no clue how the cars react during the day when everything
is a night.

It will never happen to due ratings.


  930.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.21.2016 - 11:02 pm
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The more I think about it, the more this race seems to mirror the 2007
race. All three stages of the race were really similar. Good,
side-by-side racing throughout the pack in the beginning, long green
flag runs with single file racing and a few cars dominating in the
middle, and a few late cautions leading to an amazing finish. Heck, the
move that Hamlin made to win the race was even the same move that
Harvick made to win the 2007 race, he came from several rows back on the
outside on the last lap. What makes it even more ironic is that the
driver who pushed him was Kevin Harvick, and the driver he pushed him
past was the driver who pushed Kevin Harvick in 2007, Matt Kenseth. When
I think of this race, I'll think of a not quite as good version of the
2007 Daytona 500.


  931.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 11:05 pm
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Everyone got new bio pictures except for Bobby Laborite's skinny little
pose.

Others that are funny:
Larson has yet to hit puberty.
Logano is going through an orgaism
Austin looks like a hipster.
100% confirmed Newman has no neck.
Menard is too tough for pictures.


  932.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.21.2016 - 11:24 pm
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"I could go along with this, provided that they move the July race to a
Saturday afternoon slot, like it used to be."

The big reason why they made it a night race in the first place was
because there was a lot of complaints due to the hot Florida weather in
July, and most of that was resolved when it went under the lights in 1998.

And besides, if the Gibbs cars don't line up together, the outside grove
works and we would have had a much better race.


  933.   Buckeyes23 posted:
  02.22.2016 - 12:05 am
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Man who else is ready for the young bloods like Dillon Larson Elliott
and Blaney to start winning and tearing it up??? I sure am!


  934.   PenskeGuy posted:
  02.22.2016 - 12:20 am
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Blatantly bad Daytona 500's include '98 (yes, it was a feel good moment
seeing Earnhardt finally get his Daytona 500 win but the '98 version of
the race as a whole pretty much sucked), 2000 and 2013.


  935.   Sector posted:
  02.22.2016 - 12:32 am
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"I never ever see Denny Hamlin's points paying plate wins, I never saw
the end of Talladega in 2013"

@Evan, it's 2014


  936.   Scott B posted:
  02.22.2016 - 2:52 am
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#929,

Nathan, I'd have the Unlimited a night race so it is NOT essentially a
practice session for the 500 (which currently excludes only a handful of
teams due to the expanded eligibility). The Duels belong on Thursday
afternoon, but should be televised somewhere other than FS1, so they're
more accessible to fans.


  937.   Scott B posted:
  02.22.2016 - 2:58 am
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I don't expect those things to happen though, because, well, money.


  938.   Darrell posted:
  02.22.2016 - 7:35 am
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I've never heard of anyone who isn't a Harvick fan place 2007 as one of
the best 500s of all time.


  939.   Cornys posted:
  02.22.2016 - 7:39 am
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Not a bad race :) I'm glad to get away from the plate track. Racing
season is now upon us :)


  940.   Truexfan78 posted:
  02.22.2016 - 9:05 am
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grass is going to be a bad problem from now on with these splitters


  941.   5 posted:
  02.22.2016 - 9:36 am
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How about Regan Smith? Only underdog I see in the top ten. First top ten
for TBR in years.


  942.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.22.2016 - 10:14 am
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I think we're all overlooking the most shocking part of this race, which
is that dennyfan didn't cause the website to crash when Hamlin won. Or
at least mess up the page.


  943.   racefangurl posted:
  02.22.2016 - 11:32 am
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Regan Smith isn't really a bad driver. He's not likely great, but he's
also not Michael Waltrip or Michael McDowell either. Though we haven't
seen him in good cars except as a fill-in (at least since 2011, can't
speak for his NASCAR years before that), he wasn't bad and he wasn't
great. He was just solid. Good, but not great is how I'd say he is. He
does have top-10's on driver tracks.


  944.   racefangurl posted:
  02.22.2016 - 11:43 am
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943 refers to his Cup career only. He's had good Nationwide/Xfinity
equipment and had some great seasons in it. In his 3 seasons back in the
lower series, he finished in the top-5 in points every year with at
least 1 win each season.


  945.   Anonymous posted:
  02.22.2016 - 11:46 am
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Three posts today have gotten the thumbs down. Maybe a thumbs down troll
is in our midst this morning.


  946.   Tyson posted:
  02.22.2016 - 12:11 pm
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Comparing Michael Waltrip to Michael McDowell? Jeez that's harsh. I know
a lot of people on here don't like Waltrip but he's way better than
McDowell.


  947.   Anonymous posted:
  02.22.2016 - 12:12 pm
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You know, racefangurl, yes we know its you, if you ignore the troll, it
might go away.


  948.   Cornys posted:
  02.22.2016 - 12:16 pm
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Overnight TV rating of 6.14. Historically that isn't bad for the race,
but in 2013 (NASCAR's Danica Mania) the race scored a 10.0. Last year
was a 7.3


  949.   Aldo posted:
  02.22.2016 - 1:29 pm
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I can see just 500 messages. Why?


  950.   Aldo posted:
  02.22.2016 - 1:31 pm
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Excuse me, now I know there are more than one single page for comments.


  951.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.22.2016 - 1:39 pm
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I think the Darlington race in 2003 proves just how close that really
was. Yesterday's was .011 and we all thought that was ungodly close.


  952.   1995 Subaru WRX STi posted:
  02.22.2016 - 3:17 pm
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"Overnight TV rating of 6.14. Historically that isn't bad for the race,
but in 2013 (NASCAR's Danica Mania) the race scored a 10.0. Last year
was a 7.3"

2014 was a 5.3. So this race beat that one.

Jeff Gordon is also getting good reviews from being in the booth. Much
like Steve LaTarte and Jeff Burton, his knowledge is fresh and his voice
is new and not stale. Yeah he is bias but that will change (or should i
say soften). My only problem is that i have too get used too him in the
booth


  953.   Cornys posted:
  02.22.2016 - 4:22 pm
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It should be noted that 2014 was ran at 8PM due to a rain delay.


  954.   joey2448 posted:
  02.22.2016 - 6:54 pm
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930, I already made that analogy in post 895.

Also, regarding the Daytona 500 being run in day or night, I'm siding
with the daytime running of the race, mostly for tradition's sake. But
also, look at the racing we had yesterday. With the hot sun making the
track slick, it brought handling into play much more than it would've
with a night race, so much that the fastest car of Speedweeks (the 88)
suddenly looked average as the 88 team wasn't prepared for the warmer
weather. I mean, Junior looked unbeatable in his Duel race, passing the
11 for the win with six laps to go, but once he fell back in the 500, he
had a harder time getting back to the front, and eventually wrecked off
turn 4 by getting loose.


  955.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.22.2016 - 7:03 pm
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At least with bad ratings we are weeding the people out who are raging
that Toyota payed for it and saying it was rigged and calling it Toyota
Speedway.


  956.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.22.2016 - 7:04 pm
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@951 To put it into perspective...the margin of victory in this race is
5 times longer than the Darlington race...


  957.   Eric posted:
  02.22.2016 - 7:05 pm
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I think the Daytona 500 should run in the day. Daytona don't get 90 or a
100 degrees in the day in February.

I think handling needs to be in play for cup races that considered
Majors. Race Tracks in the day usually don't have the amount of grip as
they do at night.


  958.   BK#23#83 posted:
  02.22.2016 - 7:13 pm
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In 2008, it was in the mid-upper 80s, so it is possible lol. Granted
it's not often. All I remember was that day sucked, and I got burnt,
even wearing layers of sunscreen.


  959.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.22.2016 - 7:39 pm
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Entry lists are MIA again... can't say I'm surprised.


  960.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.22.2016 - 7:50 pm
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They usually come out between Monday and Wednesday. I think last week
was because it was the first race.


  961.   Tyson posted:
  02.22.2016 - 9:23 pm
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Relax about the entry lists... The entry list for the race after the 500
is delayed until Tuesday every year because of the media circus. It
should be released tomorrow.


  962.   racefangurl posted:
  02.23.2016 - 12:18 am
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946, I was simply naming drivers worse than Smith. I don't necessarily
think Michael Waltrip and Michael McDowell are on the same level. Mikey
Waltrip's better at plate races than the later, for example.


  963.   Thomas posted:
  02.23.2016 - 1:00 pm
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Outside of the last 1.25 miles, this race was about as exciting as the
2000 edition.


  964.   PenskeGuy posted:
  02.23.2016 - 2:59 pm
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"Somehow I can't see NASCAR let TWO drivers be given credit as the
winners of a race..."

They would most likely settle it with the tiebreaker being the amount of
laps the two drivers led over the course of the race. And in the crazy
event that both drivers led the same amount of laps, they'd probably
settle it due to their position in points (which is unfair when you
think about it, but there has to be SOME tiebreaker).

As for where this year's Daytona 500 ranks in the history of these
races, I can't say for sure given that I didn't watch it, or even see
clips yet. But I will say that it would have been a great story to see
Truex win it.


  965.   Terry Maynard posted:
  02.23.2016 - 5:08 pm
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Sorry for posting this a little late but here is something interesting
for everyone to try and figure out. Does anyone know what the 2016
Daytona 500 and Race # 18 of the 1950 Season held at Winchester Speedway
in Winchester, Indiana have in common? They are the only two races in
the entire history of NASCAR (up to this point) that share something? I
will post the answer in about a week, unless someone posts it before then.


  966.   Stan posted:
  02.23.2016 - 5:42 pm
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I know this should probably be posted somewhere else, but I heard only
37 cars are entered for next week's Xfinity race.


  967.   BK#23#83 posted:
  02.23.2016 - 5:49 pm
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@965

Only thing I can come up with is the pole sitters each only led the
first 3 laps.


  968.   Tyson posted:
  02.23.2016 - 5:50 pm
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@966 - We should have 41 as long as nobody withdraws. The entry list is
missing the two Rick Ware cars that are expected, Joey Gase and Harrison
Rhodes in the #97.

The real concern should be the 39 on the Cup side - #21, #30 and #98 as
the non-charter cars listed.


  969.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.23.2016 - 6:01 pm
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Can't say I'm surprised about the short fields. Take three cars out of
the race and still can't even get a full field. The charter system is
working out great so far, right NASCAR?


  970.   Sean posted:
  02.23.2016 - 6:26 pm
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"Overnight TV rating of 6.14. Historically that isn't bad for the race,
but in 2013 (NASCAR's Danica Mania) the race scored a 10.0. Last year
was a 7.3"

Historically that's awful. Other than the 2014 rain delay, I believe the
7.3 rating was at that time the lowest ever. Not that I'm surprised, as
I figured having so much of the schedule on NBC Sports would cause many
fans who don't have the channel or regularly watch it to eventually
forget to watch...


  971.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.23.2016 - 7:13 pm
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965- I have no idea. 967 came up with the only answer I could think of
but I would think that that would've happened again since then.


  972.   Tyler posted:
  02.23.2016 - 7:22 pm
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It's sad what NASCAR has come to. Only 39 cars entered for Atlanta and
the teams are reluctant to have a part time team. They have plenty of
money but they want nothing to do with making sure the field is full.
I'm 17 and I've been watching NASCAR ever since I was 5 but this season
is gonna turn me off. I'm more concerned about getting a job than
watching some dumb boring race that no one cares about.


  973.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.23.2016 - 7:27 pm
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Not so bold prediction: there won't be a single race this year besides
the Daytona 500 where anyone DNQs.


  974.   24FanForever - Lets do this - Chase4TheW posted:
  02.23.2016 - 7:53 pm
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39 Cars entered? What the hell. 22 Years ago 86 cars were entered for
the Brickyard 400. No doubt about it NASCARs gone downhill. Next year I
bet the charter system will go down to 35 and such. I have more fun
watching a VHS tape with all the static from the 90's with racing then a
live race today.


  975.   Against Charters posted:
  02.23.2016 - 8:23 pm
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39 cup cars at Atlanta how beautiful this charter thing is working
perfectly rob and Brian have drove the little guys out the door
congratulations. I knew this shitty system would be end of big time
stock car racing.


  976.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.23.2016 - 10:37 pm
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I think we've been spoiled by the early 2000's, where competition was at
an all time high. Is the Charters killing off new teams? Yes. But
remember that there were sometimes as little as 30 cars at races in the
90's, and those races put on a show.


  977.   Tyson posted:
  02.23.2016 - 10:59 pm
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^^Finally somebody gets it. The Charters might look awful, and Rob
Kauffman might seem like the most evil person in the garage, but in the
long run, it's going to be great for the sport.

What people don't realize is that there have been talks of a charter
system, or something similar to it since the 90s. If you don't believe
me, just ask Rick Mast. He was a huge advocate for it. If we had a
charter system back then, maybe teams like Junie Donlavey's would've
survived.


  978.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.23.2016 - 11:08 pm
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So far all the charter system has done is kill off small teams, shrink
the field, and discourage new owners from joining the cup series. But
yes, it is great for the sport... SMH.


  979.   cjs3872 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 2:00 am
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@976, there may have been car counts in the low 30s in the early 90s,
but on the short tracks, the fields were only 32 cars, including
provisionals, so actually, they pretty much had full fields for many of
the short track races. But the fact that only one week after the
euphoric Daytona 500, the race at Atlanta is, as of this writing,
looking at a 39-car field, is somewhat depressing.

And racefangurl (#943), Regan Smith has proven himself to be a very good
driver, and he's certainly better than what his current team is capable
of giving him. Let's not forget that Smith won the 2011 Southern 500,
and you don't win at Darlington by being a hack. Granted, that may end
up being his only Cup win, but if it is, much as would be the case with
Paul Menard's win at Indy later that same year, there wouldn't be very
many better races in which to get your only Cup win.


  980.   racefangurl posted:
  02.24.2016 - 7:18 am
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976, as recently as 1996 the race fields were <43 cars.


  981.   Flywheel89 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 7:19 am
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@976
Those small fields were a product of NASCAR regulations limiting the
field size (moreso at the short tracks) then of teams not wanting to race.


  982.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 7:39 am
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Ugh. Only 39 cars entered.
Even by shrinking the field by 3, we still get a short field.
It wasn't so long ago that 50 cars would show up per race.
That has changed.
I'm willing that fields will soon be shrunk more, likely to around 35 cars.
NASCAR is dying.


  983.   Cornys posted:
  02.24.2016 - 8:10 am
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It's not that NASCAR is dying guys. NASCAR's pay structure makes it
impossible to make money for the open teams unless there is at least one
open spot in the field. The money that the open spot on the grid would
have received is given to the top open teams in terms of points at the
end of the year.

According to Pockrass, finishing 40th isn't enough to cover the cost of
a start and park now for an open team.

NASCAR its self has said that they don't care if they only get 36 teams.
Their field is 36 teams. Anything else is a bonus. NASCAR doesn't WANT
more than 36 teams.


  984.   Cornys posted:
  02.24.2016 - 8:12 am
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Also, don't forget that in 2014 the Kentucky Cup race did have 42 entries.


  985.   Eldrick posted:
  02.24.2016 - 8:13 am
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The whole purpose of charters is so that the big boys get to feast on
what's left of a rapidly shrinking pie, and the little guys get shut out
entirely or get an occasional crumb that falls on the floor.

Even NASCAR knows that NASCAR is dying.



  986.   David posted:
  02.24.2016 - 11:02 am
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Breaking: Stewart-Haas Racing to switch to Fords in 2017.


  987.   1995 Subaru WRX Sti posted:
  02.24.2016 - 11:08 am
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"It's not that NASCAR is dying guys."

Actually it is. Because people on the internet say so. And anything said
on the internet, especially from a bunch of people who know so much
about how too run a professional racing series and know the ins and outs
of business. People on the internet are smarter then people in real
life. It must be true.

"What people don't realize is that there have been talks of a charter
system, or something similar to it since the 90s. If you don't believe
me, just ask Rick Mast. He was a huge advocate for it. If we had a
charter system back then, maybe teams like Junie Donlavey's would've
survived."

but but but.... Bill France Jr. was a saint. He would never dream of
doing something like that. Brian France is the devil.

Actually it doesn't surprise me. 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's they would
have done it if it benefited them.

NASCAR fans are so near-sighted it isn't even funny.


  988.   David posted:
  02.24.2016 - 11:39 am
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"And anything said on the internet, especially from a bunch of people
who know so much about how too run a professional racing series and know
the ins and outs of business. People on the internet are smarter then
people in real life. It must be true."

This is why I'm willing to give the charter system a chance. I don't
know anything about business theory or how NASCAR should be run. I do
have several ideas for change, but that doesn't make me smarter than
Brian France. And if the charter scheme is really just that "big boys
get to feast on what's left of a rapidly shrinking pie", then there's
nothing that I can do to stop it. Whining won't help. I've learned to
enjoy NASCAR for what it is now, because there's no going back to the
old days.


  989.   Anonymous posted:
  02.24.2016 - 11:39 am
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""It's not that NASCAR is dying guys."

Actually it is. Because people on the internet say so. And anything said
on the internet, especially from a bunch of people who know so much
about how too run a professional racing series and know the ins and outs
of business. People on the internet are smarter then people in real
life. It must be true.

"What people don't realize is that there have been talks of a charter
system, or something similar to it since the 90s. If you don't believe
me, just ask Rick Mast. He was a huge advocate for it. If we had a
charter system back then, maybe teams like Junie Donlavey's would've
survived."

but but but.... Bill France Jr. was a saint. He would never dream of
doing something like that. Brian France is the devil.

Actually it doesn't surprise me. 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's they would
have done it if it benefited them.

NASCAR fans are so near-sighted it isn't even funny."

Not to speak of your own arrogance and inability to see that (a) the sky
isn't falling, but more importantly (b) it isn't all sunshine and roses
either.


  990.   Anonymous posted:
  02.24.2016 - 11:51 am
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1995 Subaru all you ever do is whine about people who are telling the
truth about the current state of NASCAR. And learn the difference
between to and too.


  991.   Scott B posted:
  02.24.2016 - 12:00 pm
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"What people don't realize is that there have been talks of a charter
system, or something similar to it since the 90s. If you don't believe
me, just ask Rick Mast"

Yeah, nothing at all self-serving about a guy who DNQ'ed 15 times in one
season speaking out in favor of a system that guaranteed starting spots
to teams. ;)


  992.   Scott B posted:
  02.24.2016 - 12:07 pm
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I fully expected the Cup races out West to have less than 40 entries,
but 39 at Atlanta is disappointing.

Too bad Furniture Row isn't geared up to launch their second car yet, it
would be a good opportunity for them to run some events with no risk of
a DNQ.


  993.   Captain51 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 12:21 pm
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@992,


The 2nd car for Furniture Row wouldn't be much different than the Wood
Bros. It has the raw speed that it needs and with Erik Jones behind the
wheel, it wouldn't be too much of a concern for them to have to worry
about not making the field on speed when they're going up against teams
like the 30 and 98. It would be one of those things where as long as
there wasn't some sort of mechanical hiccup, they'd be fine.


  994.   Scott B posted:
  02.24.2016 - 12:50 pm
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^^^ Right. Or a rainy day for qualifying, which could send a competitive
part-time team home instead of a field filler full-time.


  995.   Captain51 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 2:36 pm
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Bob Pockrass just tweeted a photo that had the winnings for the Daytona
500. I was actually pretty surprised to see that after hearing that the
winnings wouldn't be released. After looking at the winnings for the
charter vs. open teams, it's obvious that the open teams are getting
quite what the charter teams are getting, but I was expecting it to be a
more significant gap in earnings. Just an estimate, it looks like the
open teams are getting something like 75% for their respective positions.


  996.   Captain51 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 2:38 pm
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"it's obvious that the open teams are getting quite what the charter
teams are getting"

that should read "the open teams AREN'T getting quite what the charter
teams are getting"


  997.   cjs3872 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 3:08 pm
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Is anyone else on here as shocked as I am that Stewart-Haas Racing is
switching to Fords next year after over a decade running Chevrolets?
That was just announced. I know that Chevrolet is still deep, given that
Hendrick Motorsports and Richard Childress Racing are still flagship
Chevrolet teams, but losing Stewart-Haas Racing just a year after losing
Furniture Row Racing's #78 car, which was one of the four teams racing
for the championship last fall at Homestead, has to be a HUGE blow to
Chevrolet going forward.

Obviously, the move to Ford is a boon to Ford, given the age of the
flagship Ford team owners, and the fact that Roush no longer seems to be
competitive (theirs was a brutal Daytona 500, and I don't see much going
ahead for them in 2016, anyway) means that Ford is, once again, a one
organization mark, with Penske flying the banner alone again, with
Richard Petty's team likely the #2 Ford operation in 2016. Having a
younger organization like Stewart-Haas certainly gives Ford hope for the
future, though it also offers up some questions. First, of the likely
2017 SHR drivers, only Kurt Busch has ever driven a Ford, and he was
very successful with Ford, winning a championship in 2004. But neither
of the ex-RCR teammates, Kevin Harvick and Clint Bowyer, have ever
driven Fords, so I wonder how that might work, and I have no idea what's
going to happen with SHR's fourth car for 2017.

The SHR move to Ford also opens up the question of whether, with
decreasing support from Ford, Roush might do what was once considered
unthinkable, and leave Ford for Chevrolet in 2017. And considering the
question regarding whether Ganassi might also jump ship from Chevrolet
to Ford, with whom Ganassi certainly has a past from his IndyCar days,
not to mention his current relationship with Ford through the sports car
ranks. If Ganassi moves to Ford, it would not surprise me if Roush, or
even Richard Petty's team switches to Chevrolets. Remember that Petty
has a past with GM, including winning the 1979 championship and his
final two Daytona 500s in GM cars.

But this begs the question of why SHR would announce such a move so
quickly, just before the SECOND race of the 2016 season? One thing is
for sure. The one team that figures to benefit the most from the SHR
move to Ford is Richard Childress Racing, an organization that hasn't
found victory lane since 2013, but one who figures to get a real boost
in manufacturer support with Chevrolet's #2 team suddenly announcing a
departure. I would look for the #3 car to return to victory lane, and
fairly soon, and there doesn't figure to be a dry eye at whatever race
track that happens at.


  998.   Alex posted:
  02.24.2016 - 3:20 pm
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"I would look for the #3 car to return to victory lane, and fairly soon,
and there doesn't figure to be a dry eye at whatever race track that
happens at. "

You sure as hell can bet on that because that'll take about 35 DNF's to
happen!


  999.   DB1995 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 3:37 pm
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shocked by SHR's decision to switch to ford, absolutely would have bet
more money on Danica winning the PGA tour championship than that. I can
actually cheer for them now


  1000.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.24.2016 - 4:18 pm
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"You sure as hell can bet on that because that'll take about 35 DNF's to
happen!"

I get that people hate him just because he drives the #3 car and because
he's Richard Childress' grandson, but he made considerable progress in
the second half of last year. He will win a race before too long.


  1001.   Anonymous #2 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 4:52 pm
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997, the announcement said they would be running Roush-Yates engines. A
Roush switch seems unlikely.

Another thing: Harvick is only under contract through the end of this
season according to Jayski's website (though he isn't listed as a
potential free agent at the top of the page). If he wants to remain in a
Chevy Ganassi (#1) and Childress (#27 and #31) might have openings.


  1002.   murb posted:
  02.24.2016 - 5:08 pm
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"If he wants to remain in a Chevy Ganassi (#1) and Childress (#27 and
#31) might have openings."

Those are both massive steps down (and I'd say even the #5 at Hendrick
would be a step down, even though we haven't seen SHR with Ford yet).
Say what you want about Harvick, but he's no idiot. I'd say there's
virtually zero chance he leaves the team that's given him by far the
best two year stretch of his career.


  1003.   Woodbridge posted:
  02.24.2016 - 5:11 pm
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I seriously doubt the #1, #27, or #31 move drivers anytime soon...
especially the #27, which essentially sponsors itself.


  1004.   Scott B posted:
  02.24.2016 - 5:25 pm
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If Roush-Yates were to someday split from the Ford camp, Penske could
get their engine program back up and running to fill the void and be the
supplier for all the Ford teams. Don't see that happening in the short
term future, though. Nor do I see Harvick or any of the drivers being
passionate enough about manufacturer loyalty to let it influence their
contract talks.

I wasn't expecting the SHR switch, it's a bold thing to do when the
program was doing well, but it could pay off in getting them to the next
level.

A also agree this will bring better balance into the manufacturer's
points. If Chevy does win the championship in 2017 it won't be a
walkover like it has been in the past.


  1005.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 6:15 pm
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My nominees for the Hall of Fame.

Mark Martin
Ken Squire
Benny Parsons
Ray Evernham
Janet Guthrie
Alan Kulwicki


Is the Hall even making a profit?


  1006.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 6:21 pm
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On a different note from the Decline and Fall of the France Empire,
inspired by the recent re-introduction of the old FOX theme...
What are your favorite, and least favorite, NASCAR theme songs?
For me, here are a few of my favorites.
ABC "Velocity" 1998-2000
CBS 1998-2000, as well as 1995-1997 and circa 1990
TBS's Late '90s intro
And SPEED, early-mid 2000s
But my all time favorite is the AWESOME theme CBS used for the 1988
Daytona 500. I can't find it by itself, but man, is it EPIC!


  1007.   Sean posted:
  02.24.2016 - 6:57 pm
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After all those manufacturers' championships in a row, Chevy is suddenly
in a world of hurt. I already saw Gibbs as the future several years ago
and Penske as the future in the past couple years with Hendrick likely
to take a massive hit. The first issue was Gordon's retirement. Now
there's really only one great driver left at Hendrick (Johnson), one
decent one (Junior), one washed up one (Kahne), and one unproven one.
With Johnson's retirement I think it's clear Hendrick is no longer a
major threat. I already saw Chevy in trouble both with Hendrick and
Stewart-Haas. I felt that this year Stewart's retirement and Haas's new
F1 team would be distractions to SHR already, and Harvick is also
nearing retirement age, so I didn't see much future in that team either,
and the best they could do to replace Stewart was Clint Bowyer (who I
think is kind of overrated)? I didn't see much future in both teams.
However, from a Ford perspective to have SHR as their #2 support team
behind Penske that will certainly hurt Chevy, which no longer seems to
have any marquee talent except for Johnson. The balance of power in
NASCAR shifted massively.

As for Childress, as with Robert Yates in the mid-2000s and Junior
Johnson ten years earlier (in those teams' dying years), bad driver
hires are sinking the team. The one established veteran Ryan Newman
hasn't shown any greatness in over a decade (he's Kahne-esque, and he's
their BEST driver), and Paul Menard and Austin Dillon just don't have
that kind of ceiling. Sure, Menard got a win and they both could maybe
get a win or two, but just moving up to be Chevy's #2 team isn't going
to win them more races. I don't think so anyway.

I would guess instead that Chevy would move Ganassi up to its #2 team.
Larson and McMurray both seem to have had more speed and FOUGHT FOR MORE
WINS than any of the Childress drivers recently (even in the season when
Newman laughably finished 2nd in points). Although I continue to think
Larson is overrated, I do think Larson and McMurray together are better
than the entire 3-driver Childress ensemble and that should be their
area of focus. I know Ganassi is now Ford in sports cars, but they are
Chevy in IndyCar, so they have links in both, and from Ganassi's
position, it would be much better to stay with Chevy where Hendrick and
Childress no longer have the level of driving talent they once did.

The team that seriously takes a hit is obviously Roush. This about sinks
them for good. Unlike guys like Penske, Ganassi, and Gibbs who have no
loyalty to any manufacturer and are only in it for what they think the
best move for them is, Roush was a Ford guy through and through and has
never entered anything else in any kind of racing. I have a feeling he's
going to retire as a team owner rather shortly. At this point he
probably sees no more future than anybody else does (even though they
still do well in Xfinity), and I would guess Roush is sold off to
somebody else in the next couple years. As to who would buy the team, I
don't have a clue...

"What are your favorite, and least favorite, NASCAR theme songs?"

1. ESPN 1993-97
2. CBS 1995-97
3. TNN 1996-97
4. ESPN 1998-2000
5. FOX 2001-07
6. CBS 1998-2000
7. TNN 1991-93
8. NBC 2015
9. ESPN 1987-93
10. NBC 2001-03

Those are my top ten NASCAR themes, but I'm probably ignorant of some of
the '80s ones/themes for the networks that didn't have as many races
like TBS or that "American Sports Cavalcade" show.

As for the HoF, I'll go with:

Ray Fox
Harry Hyde
Mark Martin
Benny Parsons
Robert Yates (I guess)

For the 5th, I would *really* want to pick Smokey Yunick or
Holman-Moody, none of whom have even been nominated yet (come on?
really?! Lots of worse names have already been inducted? Those are my
top three snubs over any of the actual nominees...) I *really* don't
understand the modern car owners, Evernham, Hornaday(?!), Parks,
Phillips, Rudd, Squier, Stefanik, or Waddell Wilson over Yunick, Holman,
or Moody. Also, no on Ken Squier in general. Not to criticize his
importance in NASCAR history, but they have already created the
Squire-Hall Award for Media Excellence for inducting media
personalities. If they're going to do that, he should *not* be inducted
in two separate categories, let alone three (which is also possible
since he is up for the Landmark as well).

And although I do eventually want minor-leaguers like Hornaday,
Phillips, and Stefanik in, I want several other major-leaguers like
Buddy Baker, Rudd, GANT (would have chosen him over Baker and Rudd),
Irvan, Geoff Bodine, Richmond first... But I'd take the dominant
minor-leaguers over say Junior or Jeff Burton or Bobby Labonte or Donnie
Allison or Sterling Marlin or somebody like that...


  1008.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.24.2016 - 7:03 pm
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The nominees for the next Hall of Fame class have been announced:

Buddy Baker
Red Byron
Richard Childress
Ray Evernham
Ray Fox
Rick Hendrick
Ron Hornaday
Harry Hyde
Alan Kulwicki
Mark Martin
Herschel McGriff
Raymond Parks
Benny Parsons
Larry Phillips
Jack Roush
Ricky Rudd
Ken Squier
Mike Stefanik
Waddell Wilson
Robert Yates

My choices are (in this order):
1. Benny Parsons
2. Rick Hendrick
3. Red Byron
4. Alan Kulwicki
5. Ron Hornaday


  1009.   John posted:
  02.24.2016 - 7:18 pm
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I'm sorry but Ron Hornaday should not be in the hall of fame.


  1010.   John posted:
  02.24.2016 - 7:21 pm
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Oh I'm sorry I thought he was voted as one of the 5 for this year.


  1011.   Eric posted:
  02.24.2016 - 8:01 pm
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I don't think the NASCAR Hall of Fame has made a profit.

I think the landmark Award goes to Janet Guthrie.

I have Mark Martin, Benny Parsons, Waddell Wilson, Ken Squier, and
Hershel Hcgriff being inducted into the NASCAR 2017 Hall of Fame class.


  1012.   Eric posted:
  02.24.2016 - 8:08 pm
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I meant to type Herschel Mcgriff, not Hershel Hcgriff. I actually did
the misspelling before post 1008 was posted on this site since I waited
to post after Wheel of Fortune was over.


  1013.   Eric posted:
  02.24.2016 - 8:13 pm
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I was very disappointed in Smokey Yunick not being on the ballot yet. I
think Waddell Wilson was the best of the crew members or engine builders
on this ballot. Any Engine Builder/Crew chief that over 100 cup wins
needs to get inducted at some point.

I am guessing the reason Smokey Yunick isn't on the ballet is cause by
the France Family. Smokey and the France Family did have a bad
relationship to put it mildly.


  1014.   murb posted:
  02.24.2016 - 9:02 pm
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As long as BP finally gets in, I have no problems. I do imagine Mark is
probably a lock since they have a history of choosing more "modern"
drivers in recent years (Rusty, DJ, Terry, etc). No qualms with that
though, as Mark is currently the winningest driver not yet in (excluding
Gordon/Johnson/Stewart who all won't be eligible for a while obviously).


  1015.   Blue Palaski posted:
  02.24.2016 - 10:22 pm
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@1013 Well Smokey is kinda like Nikola Tesla, nobody realizes the true
depth of his genius.


  1016.   Sean posted:
  02.24.2016 - 10:35 pm
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I think Martin is the most successful driver on the ballot, but Parsons
is the most important to induct when you consider his broadcasting as
well (his broadcasting was great enough that pushes him over the
line...I didn't think Buddy Baker was particularly outstanding as a
broadcaster so I don't think the same holds for him, but he certainly
eventually deserves induction). I chose Yates over more important engine
builders (Waddell Wilson) and car owners (Hendrick, Childress, Roush,
etc...) because he had success as an engine builder, crew chief, and car
owner, and had more versatility in the sport than the others did (same
deal with Ray Fox). I know Wilson was also a crew chief for Waltrip and
Rudd at Hendrick, but they didn't have particularly outstanding seasons
in that period, so Wilson would be primarily inducted as an engine
builder, and I think he just barely comes up short relative to the five
I did list as a result, but I shouldn't have besmirched him by putting
him on that list of people who should've been removed from the ballot
for Yunick, Holman, and Moody. While I do believe those three are the
top three snubs and more important than anyone actually nominated,
Wilson is still probably one of the top 20 snubs and deserves his
nomination. The others I listed I am far less sure. One reason I am less
sure about the current car owners (even if some of them were more
successful than the car owners I chose) is because their careers aren't
done yet. Also, the modern owners brought in the corporate era of NASCAR
which may not directly relate to the grassroots tradition of NASCAR (I
notice the pioneers of the multi-car teams like Kiekhaefer (who was such
a sleaze I'm glad he wasn't nominated, although is probably too
important to ignore at this point) and again, Holman-Moody aren't on the
ballot yet, and I'd probably want them in (even Kiekhaefer) before going
for the likes of Hendrick, but no question people like Hendrick have
more longevity...)


  1017.   joey2448 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 10:58 pm
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If anyone saw that show that aired on FS1 the day before the Sprint
Unlimited last week (12 days ago) about some of the lesser known legends
and stories of NASCAR, then you'd understand what an incredible engine
builder, owner and pioneer of NASCAR that Smokey Yunick was. Plus those
older clips of him being interviewed by BP were amazing and hilarious.


  1018.   Stan posted:
  02.24.2016 - 11:03 pm
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@1006

My favorite NASCAR theme songs are:

1. NASCAR on NBC/TNT (2004-06)
2. NASCAR on FOX (2001-07)
3. NASCAR on CBS (1998-00)
4. NASCAR on NBC (2001-03)
5. NASCAR on ABC (1998-00) Especially the music as they went to commercial.

Least favorite:

1. NASCAR on FOX (2008-10) Did not get the point of that song.
2. NASCAR on ESPN (2007) I like Aerosmith, but this did not fit at all IMO.
3. NASCAR on NBC (2015)

As for my HoF picks (in no particular order)

Benny Parsons
Richard Childress
Mark Martin
Rick Hendrick
Ken Squier


  1019.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.24.2016 - 11:38 pm
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My favorite was definetly CBS from 1998 to 2000.


  1020.   Sector posted:
  02.25.2016 - 1:12 am
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With Ford becoming a major threat in the future, just a curious question
to ask everyone. With this rule package this year, that pretty much
works to Gibbs' favor through and through, does everyone think Toyota
may just win their first manufacturer championship (They have been on a
hot streak with winning a ton of races last year's second half, their
first championship AND first Daytona 500 so far)?


  1021.   Sector posted:
  02.25.2016 - 1:14 am
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^Should probably note winning their first Brickyard 400 as well.


  1022.   Ultimate Warrior #18 (AKA MAR) posted:
  02.25.2016 - 12:55 pm
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My picks for the next hall of fame class are.

1. Rick Hendrick
2. Buddy Baker
3. Ken Squire
4. Benny Parsons
5. Ron Hornaday

Obviously there's no mark Martin on my list I choose Hornaday over mark
only because when u think of Martin first thing comes to mind he was the
best to never win it all. When I think of hornaday I think king of the
truck series. A lot of people discredit Hornaday's accomplishments
because he did it in trucks not cup but this is the NASCAR hall of fame
which means accomplishments in all levels of NASCAR counts so it would
be unfair for the most successful truck racer ever to be shut out only
guy I could replace hornaday with would be Alan K because he's a Cup
Champion.


  1023.   Eric posted:
  02.25.2016 - 1:49 pm
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Sean,

Waddell Wilson crew chief even before went to Hendrick. You are putting
way to much stock into Waddell's crew chief days at Hendrick.

Waddell won 3 Daytona 500's as a crew chief aka 1980 Daytona 500, 1983
Daytona 500 and 1984 Daytona 500. While Waddell Wilson did build engines
for Ranier, he also was a crew chief there for Buddy Baker, Bobby
Allison, Benny Parsons, and Cale Yarbarough.

Waddell Wilson almost won a championship as a crew chief in 1981 matter
of fact with Bobby Allison being his driver with Bobby being 53 points
behind Darrell Waltrip. Bobby did have a great 81 reason despite he
didn't get along with Waddell Wilson. Waddell matter of fact won 9 times
with Cale Yarbarough as crew chief in just 60 races.


The nature of the seasons Rudd had with Waddell Wilson need to be looked
at Ricky himself. While Ricky Rudd was a great driver, he never won a
lot in a season. Ricky also was a level behind Earnhardt, Waltrip, Rusty
Wallace and Bill Elliott during Ricky's prime as a driver. Ricky in 1990
and 1991 had seasons he had from 1983 to 1996. While Rudd has better
seasons in 2000 and 2001, I thought Yates was better in that era than
Hendrick was from 1990 to 1993.

I really don't have an excuse for Darrell Waltrip and Waddell together
at Hendrick despite Darrell was not the same driver as he was before the
1983 Daytona 500 crush.




  1024.   Eric posted:
  02.25.2016 - 1:58 pm
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Opps, I saw my misspelling of Cale Yarborough.

I admit Waddell Wilson doesn't have the amount of wins you expect as a
crew chief with 22, but he's not as bad as Sean painted him. Part of the
reason for Waddell's low win totals was due Harry Ranier had drivers for
the most part that didn't like to race full time in the cup series.

Buddy Baker was not known for racing full time, and Cale didn't like
racing full time after he left Junior Johnson either. Bobby Allison was
the exception the rule, but he was known to leave race teams.




  1025.   I Lost My Name posted:
  02.25.2016 - 4:03 pm
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Interesting that in 2017 if Kurt Is still in the #41 (I assume he will
be). The two other top Ford teams are the two teams that fired him,
Penske and Roush.


  1026.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.25.2016 - 4:13 pm
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^2 of the top 3 other Ford teams. I think its safe to say that RPM is a
better team right now than Roush.


  1027.   Nathan8848 posted:
  02.25.2016 - 5:21 pm
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Turns out the listed earnings are wrong as NASCAR sent out the wrong
numbers.


  1028.   dennyfan11 posted:
  02.25.2016 - 7:27 pm
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Honestly, it's really hard to pick my five nominees. I'm going to list
why they should and shouldn't for each.
Buddy Baker- Between the running of his driving school, his announcing
career, and his speed records, he set a major mark on NASCAR, and was
one of his most hard charging drivers. Honestly, the only thing going
against him is only getting 19 wins, and no championships.
Red Byron- Not really one who should get in. Yes, he won NASCAR's first
championship, but he only won a grand total of just TWO races.
Richard Childress: Should definitely make it in. One of NASCAR's
greatest team owners.
Ray Fox- One of the most legendary figures in NASCAR.
Rick Hendrick- Another legendary team owner. Would be happy to see him in.
Ron Hornaday: Not really. Yes, he won four truck championships, but was
a nobody elsewhere.
Harry Hyde: One of NASCAR's greatest crew chiefs. Would be nice to see.
Alan Kulwicki: Eh... While he did have a great underdog championship, he
only won 5 races.
Mark Martin: Won almost 100 races between NASCAR's top series. Lack of
championship is the only thing he has against him.
Hershel McGriff: Legend in the West series, didn't make a mark elsewhere.
Raymond Parks: Not really, for the same reasons as Red.
Benny Parsons: A true legend. Apart from his great driving career, he
also was a top notch commentator.
Larry Phillips: Great weekly series driver, but a nobody elsewhere.
Jack Roush: A legendary champion team owner.
Ricky Rudd: NASCAR's Iron man, had a great, long career, but only won 23
races, and was never really a championship contender, apart from 1991.
Ken Squier: Legendary TV broadcaster, but he's already in the hall of
fame, in a way.
Mike Stefanik: Legend in the modifieds, but nothing elsewhere, and is
probably more well known for his infamous interview in 2013 then his racing.
Waddell Wilson: One of NASCAR's legendary crew members.
Robert Yates: A top tier team owner.
Overall, the people who have nothing going against them for induction
are Richard Childress, Ray Evernham, Ray Fox, Rick Hendrick, Harry Hyde,
Benny Parsons, Jack Roush, Waddell Wilson, and Robert Yates. Out of
those, i'd be happy with 5 of them making it in.


  1029.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.25.2016 - 7:38 pm
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"Ron Hornaday: Not really. Yes, he won four truck championships, but was
a nobody elsewhere."

Which is why this is the NASCAR Hall of Fame. Not the Cup Series Hall of
Fame.


"Mike Stefanik: Legend in the modifieds, but nothing elsewhere, and is
probably more well known for his infamous interview in 2013 then his
racing."

Are you crazy? Thats like saying Dale Earnhardt was more well known for
saying "I just wanted to rattle his cage" than he was for racing.


  1030.   Eric posted:
  02.25.2016 - 8:34 pm
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Dennyfan11,

You really don't understand Red Bryon why only 2 cup wins and you ignore
the fact he won NASCAR's first ever modified series championship.

Red Byron was forced retire due to declining health after 1951 season at
the age of 37. Red matter of fact died 9 years after raced in his final
NASCAR race as driver.

Red's health problems actually was related to World War 2 although his
smoking didn't help matters. Red shattered his left leg in World War 2
as a tailgunner and had his leg rebuilt in different military hospitals.
It took over 2 years for Red's leg to get rebuilt due to how damage it was.

His left leg left him as a cripple that meant he had to suffer blood
clots caused by his left leg. Bad in the 1940's and 1950's a lot of
stuff wasn't that advance in the medical field compare to now.


  1031.   Eric posted:
  02.25.2016 - 9:02 pm
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I made a mistake of thinking Red was born in 1914 instead 1915 in terms
of age, but it didn't mean anything due to him retiring at a young age.

For those want to know how advance the medical field was in Red Bryon's
time, take a look at hip injuries as an example.

I suffered a hip injury back in the 1990's, I was able to do therapy
less than a week after I fracture my hip while I stayed in the hospital
recovering. Back in the 1940's, a person with a fracture hip couldn't
even do that was forced to stay in bed for a whole month and couldn't do
any therapy matter of fact. That is shows how inferior medical
procedures were in Red Byron's time.

I wouldn't be shocked if Red Byron suffered from Blood clots due to the
surgery he had for rebuilding his left leg. I said blood clots because
that was one of the reason I stayed in the hospital for a total of 8 days.

Blood clots had happen from any type of leg surgery and the amount of
time it took to rebuild Red's left leg didn't help matters.

It was very easy for him to get blood clots due to him racing after he
shattered his leg leg and the fact it is very easy to get a blood clot
from having surgery on a shattered leg in Red's case as a result. It
explains his poor health in 1951 matter of fact.



  1032.   Alex posted:
  02.26.2016 - 5:54 am
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Red Byron did a lot of important things though...

Won the first ever NASCAR sanctioned race, which was at Daytona Beach in
1948.
Won the first NASCAR sanctioned championship, the 1948 Modified title
Won the first NASCAR Cup Series title, in 1949.

Considering his disabilities should have made driving impossible (his
leg, as Eric mentioned, was horribly damaged, to the point he had a rig
to bolt it to the clutch), he was the best for the little time that he
did run.


  1033.   KW posted:
  02.26.2016 - 8:23 am
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Just to add to the Red Byron notes, he won 11 (at least) modified races
in 1948 on his way to the championship and at least 2 in 49 (4/13 and
5/18 at Charlotte Speedway) and finished 7th in points, and at least 1
(3/5/50 at Charlotte Speedway) in 50.

Remember modifieds were the only class in 1948 and really still the
premier class in 49.

Red accomplished a lot in the pre-Nascar years in the NCSRC that Bill
France was at least partially running winning at Daytona and
Martinsville in 1947 and finishing 3rd in points.

People like Red (and this applies to Ray Parks as well) brought people
to NASCAR races in the early days when there were a number of rival
organizations running, and helped to make NASCAR the one that survived.
So no, he didn't win a lot of Cup level races, an no he didn't run all
that long, but his contribution was still great.


  1034.   Anonymous posted:
  02.26.2016 - 12:01 pm
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Anyone else having problems posting comments?


  1035.   Cornys posted:
  02.26.2016 - 1:50 pm
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I'm hearing rumors than Roush might be leaving NASCAR following this
season. No directly reliable source, but that would explain SHR moving
to Ford.


  1036.   Cornys posted:
  02.26.2016 - 1:51 pm
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That would be a good way for the Wood Bros. to get a charter as well.


  1037.   Tyson posted:
  02.26.2016 - 1:57 pm
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Hearing rumours, or making them up?


  1038.   Cornys posted:
  02.26.2016 - 1:57 pm
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The rumors I'm reading have Roush continuing to make motors for Ford.


  1039.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.26.2016 - 2:01 pm
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Bayne is signed through 2017 at Roush, if they left after this year that
would be a really strange move. But I'm not going to take rumors that
seriously unless we actually hear some evidence.


  1040.   Cornys posted:
  02.26.2016 - 2:06 pm
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These rumors were not of my creation.


  1041.   Maverick11 posted:
  02.26.2016 - 2:12 pm
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I know. I just want to have a little more conformation before I think
it's true.


  1042.   Cornys posted:
  02.26.2016 - 2:20 pm
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No worries, Maverick11. I was responding to Tyson :)

I agree, but I wanted to put it out there once I read it. It's possible.
The charters make it easier to leave.


  1043.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.26.2016 - 2:27 pm
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I haven't heard this anywhere. Where did you get it from?

If this is true though, this would be yet another big blow as far as the
car count goes.


  1044.   Cornys posted:
  02.26.2016 - 4:22 pm
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I found it on TrackForum. Somebody there said he'd seen is discussed
somewhere.

Normally I wouldn't mention it, but I've seen a lot of things like that
discussed there that I couldn't find anywhere else, and it turns out to
be true in a few weeks or months.

Hopefully it is just a rumor.


  1045.   racefangurl posted:
  02.26.2016 - 4:58 pm
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1044, if it did come to anything (the Roush rumor), it's hard to imagine
all three drivers landing somewhere. 2 out of 3, max, would land on
their feet, IMO. The Biff might retire from driving, go-part time or
perhaps drop to a lower series like Trucks, since he's an old guy. Ricky
might also land somewhere. If he couldn't find a Cup ride, I could see
him going back to the Xfinity series. But Trevor, even if he is a
Daytona 500 winner and has that AdvoCare sponsorship, also has MS and
unless an owner was really desperate for sponsor money, he'd be out of
NASCAR.


  1046.   Sector posted:
  02.26.2016 - 5:06 pm
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^I half expected you to say something like Trevor would replace Danica @
SHR and become a top 10 driver next year since SHR is going to Ford.


  1047.   murb posted:
  02.26.2016 - 5:11 pm
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I haven't heard that Roush rumor either, but honestly it wouldn't
surprise me too much, especially now with SHR coming to Ford. Actually,
Chris Buescher being in the #34 has got me wondering if Roush actually
IS gearing up to sell the team (and/or merge) to Front Row pretty soon.
If he does choose to bow out, something like that happening seems way
more realistic to me than him just shutting everything down MWR style
(just from watching Jack over the years, I feel like it would more
resemble the way Yates exited - especially if it's true that he would
keep making motors for Ford).


  1048.   ch posted:
  02.26.2016 - 5:22 pm
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Sponsor change:

31 - Caterpillar (For consistency with the last nearly 20 years of
sponsorship)


  1049.   Cornys posted:
  02.26.2016 - 6:44 pm
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Rumor was started by Autoracing1.com

It's a racing news site that requires members to pay for online
articles. I've now only been to the site once, and their articles aren't
able to be read without a membership (I don't have one), but on their
home page there is a link to the article.

"Roush-Fenway to pack it in?"

The rumor comes from that article. Everything other than the title is
second hand information from somebody who has read the article.


  1050.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  02.26.2016 - 7:23 pm
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Kyle Busch failed post-qualifying inspection, Kurt is on the pole now.


  1051.   racefangurl posted:
  02.26.2016 - 10:06 pm
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1046, if he didn't have MS I would perhaps think of something like that.
However, he does have MS and, IMO that makes him seem too risky for
anyone but Roush or someone desperate for sponsor money (like his
AdvoCare sponsorship).


  1052.   David posted:
  02.29.2016 - 8:27 pm
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Did anyone else notice how Matt Kenseth didn't drop completely to the
back before the green? He started the race more mid-pack than in the rear.


  1053.   Seibaru posted:
  12.28.2016 - 2:35 pm
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This was the only race this whole year that multiple cars failed to
qualify for. Fail, NASCAR. Fail.


  1054.   chevyfan98 posted:
  12.28.2016 - 3:07 pm
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Fall Talladega would have had up to 3 DNQs but several cars withdrew
knowing they wouldn't qualify.


  1055.   chevyfan98 posted:
  02.19.2017 - 10:42 pm
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I'd forgotten how much of a crapfest the first 100 comments on this page
were. Sadly I can't say I was entirely innocent here.


  1056.   Jacob posted:
  06.27.2018 - 6:41 pm
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Likely the final cup start for Robert Richardson Jr.


  1057.   JSPorts posted:
  06.27.2018 - 6:44 pm
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In 9 career starts (all at Daytona or Talladega), his best result was an
18th in his debut at Talladega in the fall of 2009.


  1058.   #BowmanNation #TKNation #JRNation posted:
  06.27.2018 - 6:57 pm
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Somewhat was Cinderella of this years 500, replacing mike Wallace from
the previous


  1059.   Wil posted:
  02.24.2019 - 10:48 pm
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I've never witnessed an announcer murder an exciting finish like Darrell
Waltrip in this race. I felt bad for Mike Joy and the fans watching at
home. The Darrell/Jeff Gordon dynamic was absolutely insufferable when
they started, but they've really improved together now.


  1060.   Rich posted:
  11.27.2020 - 9:56 am
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Mike Joy, Darrell Waltrip and Jeff Gordon were the commentators. Matt
Yocum, Jamie Little, Chris Neville and Vince Welch were the pit road
reporters. Larry McReynolds was the in-race analyst. Chris Myers was in
the Hollywood hotel.


  1061.   Rich posted:
  12.06.2020 - 4:46 pm
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Mike Joy, Darrell Waltrip and Jeff Gordon were the commentators. Vince
Welch, Matt Yocum, Jamie Little and Chris Neville were the pit road
reporters. Larry McReynolds was the in-race analyst. Chris Myers was in
the Hollywood hotel.


  1062.   Rich posted:
  12.09.2020 - 2:35 pm
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Mike Joy, Darrell Waltrip and Jeff Gordon were the commentators. Matt
Yocum, Vince Welch, Jamie Little and Chris Neville were the pit road
reporters. Larry McReynolds was the in-race analyst. Chris Myers was in
the Hollywood hotel.


  1063.   Rich posted:
  01.12.2021 - 11:48 am
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Chris Myers was the host of the pre-race show. Darrell Waltrip, Larry
McReynolds, Michael Waltrip and Jeff Gordon were the pre-race show
analysts.


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