|| *Comments on the 2011 Scotts EZ Seed 300:* View the most recent comment <#76> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Smiff_99 posted: 03.19.2011 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another Nationwide race, another Kyle Busch victory. YAAAAAWWWWWWN 2. Smiff_99 posted: 03.19.2011 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's downright sickening. This series used to mean something.........it used to be worth watching. And in just 3 short years, Kyle Busch (biggest offender) has ruined it. 3. jensenators posted: 03.19.2011 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) good for jennifer jo cobb. its nice to see someone stand up for racing instead of start and parking, even if she doesnt run well. 4. 00andJoe posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) An easy solution to the continued Buschwacking came to me while watching the day's racing events: prohibit drivers competing in the 'B' and 'C' series races from participating in Cup practice sessions following the other series' qualifying. I'd bet the double-dippers would dry up really fast. 5. 00andJoe posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor for the #05: Owens Corning/31-W Insulation. #24 Kevin Lepage participated in practice, but withdrew after wrecking. 6. Watto posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The JGR 18 the car to beat... not a surprise. Some stats that are food for thought: Kyle Busch had 11 Nationwide wins in 108 starts with Hendrick. In Gibbs Toyotas, he has 33 wins in 87 starts. Looks like I was a week late in the "guess which week Aric passes Danica in points" game. I said Vegas, but it would've happened today even without Danica wreck. I found Danica's anger to be a little over the top. Ryan Truex got a little loose and came down a couple of feet at most, and when you don't give the car next to you any room for error, things like that are going to happen a lot more than they should. It's stupid to crowd people racing for 20th. Carl Long tied his Nationwide best of 28th for the 3rd time in his 20th start. Stenhouse was able to run with Kyle Busch, but pit strategy + a restart lineup penalty knocked him out of contention. Kasey Kahne had fresher tires than Kyle approaching the end of the race, but ran out of time without a caution falling in his favor. Earnhardt Jr was about top 5 quality all day long and was able to capture 3rd after being trapped a lap down after a green flag pit stop. 7. dUDE gUY posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How about just banning them from those series entirely? Doesn't F1 do the same thing with their lower tier series, so that the elite drivers won't predictably and boringly stink up the show in the lower tier series? I wish NASCAR would do something like that, even just limiting the amount of races to maybe a quarter of the races would help a ton in giving the NAtionwide series and now the Truck series back their own respective identities, rather than being Cup Lite and Cup Lite Jr. 8. Rusty posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Jennifer Jo Cobb made her owner look like a complete ass. Him turning down an interview because he "can't hear" made him look like a bigger ass. I'm glad she showed some dignity and refused to start and park. As far as the actual race, Kyle Busch led almost the entire thing. Other than Danica throwing a fit at Ryan Truex, the race was pretty uneventful, disapointing for Bristol. 9. ESPN posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG MORE KYLE BUSCH HISTORY. FIRST NATIONWIDE DRIVER TO LEAD 10,000 LAPS. ISN'T EVERYONE SO HAPPY TO WITNESS THIS HISTORIC EVENT? 10. 18fan posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse's laps led were the first laps led by a NNS regular this year since Daytona. 11. Damon posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Smiff ain't happy with Kyle Busch I guess, lol. 12. Corn off the Cobb posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) It sounds like Cobb went menstrual and planned to sabotage Rick Russell after he made his intentions known that the #79 was to start and park on Friday evening. This was a set-up to make Russell look like a buffoon, and it worked. I just hope that fans, owners, and sponsors will see how vindictive that Cobb was for this sabotage. She should have withdrawn on Friday, not moments before the race was set to begin. Cobb used this to her advantage to draw media attention and support from the fans. Genius! 13. Damon posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Looks like I was a week late in the "guess which week Aric passes Danica in points" game. I said Vegas, but it would've happened today even without Danica wreck." Actually, it wouldn't have, Watto. Danica was 17th at the time of the wreck, one spot behind Algaier and he finished 15th. If she finished 16th she would've gained another 17 points and been 3rd in points with 126. Had she finished 17th, she would've gained 16 more points, giving her 125, still keeping her in 3rd and ahead of Almirola. 14. Anonymous posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Banning the Cup drivers from the series would literally kill the series, FYI. But I guess that would be better than CUP DRIVERS WINNING LOWER LEVEL RACES WTF THIS NEVER HAPPENED FIVE YEARS AGO AND DEFINITELY NOT BACK IN THE 80S WHEN EVERYTHIGN WAS GOOD WTF. 15. Neal posted: 03.19.2011 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica's PO'd that someone races her hard? I didn't know that the other drivers were supposed to just pull over out of courtesy and let her pass. 16. Cooper posted: 03.19.2011 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anybody else really irritated with the restarts? Especially Kyle Busch... I mean every single restart the leader would get a jump of about 30-50 feet, leaving the 4th place driver to basically take 2nd position every time. By the time they got settled the leader was a second ahead. I mean even at the start of the race Ricky Stenhouse had a 20 car length lead by turn one. NASCAR needs to do something about this. What's the sense of having a double file restarts if their not double file? I mean seriously. Danica was average. She was doing what she wanted to, but unfortunately a racing incident took her out. Ryan Truex got loose trying to avoid the wall and Danica was right on his fender and she took the blunt of the hit. She was actually 2nd in points at the time of the incident but welcome to Bristol Danica. Kyle Busch wins another lower tier event. Of all his NASCAR wins, nearly 79% of them have been in the Nationwide and Truck Series. I'll start complaining when that rate hits 80% which could very well be next week. I was actually surprised today that the high groove wasn't really good and neither was the low groove. The best line seemed to be the middle and drivers were really diamonding(is that a word?) the corner. And I think I'm starting to figure out why Brad is cutting so many tires down and why he is struggling in the Cup series. Brad obviously has an aggresive racing style and dives the car into the corner. This puts alot of pressure on the right front tire, which eventually blows out. The Cup series cars are different from the Nationwide cars. The Cup cars have a lot more power so the need to dive into the corners doesn't exist. I think Brad is driving his Cup cars in to deep and results in him getting beat off the corner. If I was Brad I would seriously start thinking about backing up the corner and letting the car roll through the corners. Overall an average race. Could Jason Leffler be the favourite to win this championship? My odds to win the championship... Jason Leffler 5/2 Reed Sorenson 3-1 Justin Allgaier 3-1 Ricky Stenhouse 7/2 Elliott Sadler 5-1 Someone Else 10-1 17. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 03.19.2011 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Unwatchable race. No wonder there were so many empty seats. 18. ShavedBusch posted: 03.19.2011 - 6:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WTG Kyle! 5-in-a-row tomorrow, book it, done. 19. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 03.19.2011 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch leads 268 of 300 laps on his way to yet another dominating NW victory. Honestly, I expect the 18 team to win every week on the Nationwide side (except for Montreal where Kyle sucks). Brad's gotten off to a pretty bad start this season. He has had either contact with the wall or has gotten wrecked in every Nationwide race so far this season. At least at Vegas and today he was able to recover to score top 10's, but I hope his luck turns around starting next week. Was Rick Russell the guy who declined an interview after Cobb got out of his car because he was "tuning them out" with his ears? If so, he's an asshole. Seriously, how difficult is it to discuss the situation with the media and viewers? I am glad that Jennifer Jo Cobb decided not to start-and-park the car, and that she said she's here to RACE. I, at the very least have more respect for her than Kevin Conway now. 20. Watto posted: 03.19.2011 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sorry Damon, I must've been thinking about Danica's lead on Aric going into Vegas. Either way, I thought Aric would be ahead of her following Vegas, and that guess was one race early. 21. DaleSrFanForever posted: 03.19.2011 - 6:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Glad I missed this one. Kyle is extremely talented, but his equipment in NWide and Trucks is so blatently superior. Kasey proved how good his Trucks are by doing at Darlington, NASCAR's toughest track, what Kyle always does in that Truck. And compare Joey Logano's NWide results to his Cup results. That shows you how superior Kyle's stuff is. Hell, look at the clinic Tony put on in those cars in 2008 on a very limited basis, often beating Kyle straight up. I did see the NASCAR.com replay of the GoDaddy Girl's wreck and interview. "He just races so hard!" OF COURSE HE DOES, IT IS CALLED RACING!!!! UNLIKE YOU, HE IS NOT GUARANTEED A RIDE AND SPONSORSHIP BECAUSE OF BEING A CELEBRITY FOR THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RACING!!! Besides, like Watto said, the wreck was more her fault than Ryan's. She needs to stay in Indy cars. 22. Damon posted: 03.19.2011 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Truex was down 3 laps, Danica was down 2 and trying to catch Algaier.......move out of the way and fight that battle another day. 23. rog24 posted: 03.19.2011 - 7:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And I think I'm starting to figure out why Brad is cutting so many tires down and why he is struggling in the Cup series. Brad obviously has an aggresive racing style and dives the car into the corner. This puts alot of pressure on the right front tire, which eventually blows out. The Cup series cars are different from the Nationwide cars. The Cup cars have a lot more power so the need to dive into the corners doesn't exist. I think Brad is driving his Cup cars in to deep and results in him getting beat off the corner. If I was Brad I would seriously start thinking about backing up the corner and letting the car roll through the corners." ... you can't be serious. Have you just started watching NASCAR this year or something? 24. DaleSrFanForever posted: 03.19.2011 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And I think I'm starting to figure out why Brad is cutting so many tires down and why he is struggling in the Cup series. Brad obviously has an aggresive racing style and dives the car into the corner. This puts alot of pressure on the right front tire, which eventually blows out. The Cup series cars are different from the Nationwide cars. The Cup cars have a lot more power so the need to dive into the corners doesn't exist. I think Brad is driving his Cup cars in to deep and results in him getting beat off the corner. If I was Brad I would seriously start thinking about backing up the corner and letting the car roll through the corners." I think the part about him needing to back his corners up to start being anything other than a mid packer in Cup is true. Not sure that is why he is blowing tires in NWide. You could be right, but I think that would have surfaced in NWide before now. I know they have a new car this year, but they raced it 4 times last year, including Richmond which is notoriously tough on right fronts. I think they are trying edgy setups and getting burned. But like I said, you could be right. And I agree about the Cup part. He needs to be agressive off the corners and down the straights there. 25. dUDE gUY posted: 03.19.2011 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Responding to post 9: HECK YEAH! I LOVE SEEING A LOWER TIER RACE BEING DOMINATED BY SUPPOSEDLY-ELITE DRIVERS IN CUP-FUNDED EQUIPMENT WHO SHOULD ALREADY BE WAY PAST RUNNING IN LOWER TIER RACES! DAMN, DO I EVER LOVE SEEING A FEEDER SERIES THAT USED TO HAVE IT'S OWN UNIQUE FEEL AND IDENTITY SLOWLY DEGRADE INTO NOTHING BUT A PLAYGROUND FOR SUPPOSEDLY-ELITE DRIVERS WITH BUTTHURT EGOS! HECK YEAH! Hahaha, but seriously: no, I am not happy. I'm disheartened, to be honest. I'd be happy if it were a Nationwide regular who did that, but of course it's a Cup guy. Actually, thinking about it, by now I guess we can consider a lot of Cup guys Nationwide regulars too, seeing as they enter most or every event and completely dominate them, you know, so they can prove how great they are in far superior equipment with guaranteed sponsorship while racing against drivers who are new or newish to the series and running in inferior equipment while struggling to find sponsorship. True Nationwide drivers might as well not even be there anymore, given how little exposure, how little sponsorship and how few good rides come their way... Glad I missed this one, because it looks like another potentially good Nationwide race has been almost completely and entirely wasted on Cup drivers who, for some pathetic, idiotic reason need an ego boost for Sunday's race. 26. Android posted: 03.19.2011 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Don't hate the player, hate the game. 27. Bronco posted: 03.19.2011 - 8:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Glad I missed this one. Kyle is extremely talented, but his equipment in NWide and Trucks is so blatently superior." I disagree, you can't attribute his success in Nationwide and Trucks purely to having superior cars than anyone else. In Nationwide he dominates every race he's in and is always a threat to win. His relief driver for standalone races, Coleman, doesn't come close to doing that. His new teammate this year, Brian Scott never sniffs the lead despite having last year's #20 team. Likewise, Kyle won 7 races in 2009 driving for the #51 team on a part time basis, while Aric last year had a great season but only 2 wins overall, and didn't challenge for them often. Dale Jr makes it four top 5s in a row at two tracks - Daytona and Bristol. 28. Cooper posted: 03.19.2011 - 9:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whats the problem rog24. It's been scientifically proven that diving deep into the corner in these COT will make the car very tight into the corners. This results in the inability to pick up the throttle quickly. Having a slow exit off the turns kill you more then easing into the corner. How do you not know this? This is just easy physics here. Have you watched NASCAR and seen that some drivers have different apex's and thats what makes a certain driver better at some racetracks. C'mon man at least have some knowledge of the sport before asking someone if they've watched racing before I've been watching NASCAR for 10 years and almost every NASCAR fan knows these COT need to be baby driven. I'll try to find some articles or proof to make you look like a dummy. Oh and I love how you have no response, just a simple smartass answer. 29. Cooper posted: 03.19.2011 - 9:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Link http://www.cbssports.com/nascar/story/10097950/rss "One of the things I learned early on here is that you have to be patient in the way you drive this track," said Gordon. "The key is not to overdrive the corner. With a flat, sharp corner, it's very easy to drive too deep into the corner. When you do that, it just messes up the whole corner. It takes away your ability to roll through the center and drive straight up off the corner." Hmmm so I guess Jeff Gordon was wrong. Jeff must not know how to drive... I think I'd listen to Jeff more than you. I don't really get angry, but you have managed to. Congratulations. 30. rog24 posted: 03.19.2011 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why are you questioning what I know when I didn't even bother to explain anything? Brad Keselowski doesn't enter deeper than most of his competition, so I didn't understand why you were jumping to such a conclusion like you have a fix for their issues. It goes beyond that. They have a new crew chief and are trying things, and it's been a bit of a struggle. Brad ran great and even won with the COT last year, and he's had to switch to a new package this year to try to keep up with the most competitive teams. It's a little more simple than, "gee, he should back off earlier and suddenly he will run up front in Cup and stop blowing tires in nationwide!" I understand that overdriving your car can toast your right front. But when haven't actually exceeded the limits of the right front tire and it still blows, your problems are a little beyond driver. Dude, you don't need to try to prove me wrong on something I wasn't disagreeing with in the first place. You don't want to get into a technical debate with me. 31. rog24 posted: 03.19.2011 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I meant to say "it's not as simple as" rather than "it's a little more simple than" lol. Should've given that a quick proofread before posting. But dude, I understand that why this car can be tougher on the RF tire, let alone all the tires... that's not what I was contesting. 32. CBASS posted: 03.19.2011 - 10:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsors: #05- Owens Corning/ 31-W Insulation #15- Lilly Trucking of Virginia #49- High Country Paint & Performance 33. Cooper posted: 03.19.2011 - 10:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irq3yrbC1ok rog24 video proof that Brad drives deeper than other drivers. Look at when he won the pole last year in New Hampshire. Just look at how much he gains going into the corner and how much he hurts in the center. This is proof that he drivers deep into the cooner and uses a lot of brake. The announcers even say he drives hard into the corner. Do you still think he doesn't drive in deeper than other drivers? And I'm sorry but insinuating that I don't watch NASCAR means you think I'm an idiot. I think that's picking an argument :) 34. Josh C posted: 03.19.2011 - 10:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Congrats to Elliot Sadler for "winning" the most Nationwide Series points. Hope he can do something in this series. Congrats to Kyle on another win. Just wish all of these wins were coming in the Cup Series. 35. 18fan posted: 03.19.2011 - 11:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We already have one thing that NASCAR needs to address. It was different in the 1990s when a few Cup drivers entered Busch races but for the most part they didn't drive for Cup affiliated teams and didn't totally own the show like they do know. I don't know what can be done to make this issue go away, but it has to be addressed eventually. 36. Cooper posted: 03.19.2011 - 11:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To Rog24: I would just like to say before my focus turns to the Cup race tommorrow that I've been a Brad fan since 2005 when he drove for his family truck team and I've watched a countless number of laps by Brad, he does have a more aggresive style than other drivers. That's what makes him a great driver. I wouldn't say something critical about him if it wasn't close to the truth. I've provided proof of him overdriving the corner (which resulted in a pole) and I've provided a link that Jeff Gordon says it is important to get through the center of the corner with the COT not into the corner. I hate arguing with people because it takes away from the joy and fun of racing and it hinders the enjoyment for other people on the site. The reason I got upset with you was because you challenged my knowledge on something I believe I have a lot about. There's only two things I know a lot about... Business and NASCAR. If you still doubt my opinion or believe that I'm wrong, then you can go ahead and believe so, but I still firmly believe that Brad is having a hard time in the Cup series because of his driving style. I've been discouraged about his performance and I'm hoping for something to change, maybe by adjusting his driving style he might have some better runs in the Cup Series. Unless you think finishing 26th and losing to Casey Mears is having success. Have a nice weekeend. 37. Anonymous posted: 03.20.2011 - 12:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Damn, Kyle Busch is good. The haters can say all they want to try and devalue his accomplishments but 89 wins in Nascar's top three series as a 25 year old is nothing short of remarkable and he deserves all the credit he gets from the media. 38. rog24 posted: 03.20.2011 - 12:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Since when is a qualifying lap at New Hampshire proof that he drives deeper than everybody in a race at any given track? In case you haven't noticed, people drive their cars in qualifying to the absolute limit of the track. That also isn't proof that he was charging the corners more than most fast cars in that qualifying session, it just shows that he drove harder on entry than the driver who was on the pole before him. One lap doesn't dictate how someone drives usually. If he was able to run the COT last year in those four races without tire failures, and actually win and run top 5 without failures, apparently there's more to it. I'm telling you there's more to it because I KNOW there's more to it, and they've been very public about why they're behind the eight ball and trying a new package. Obviously they're learning that it isn't working too well and will be making adjustments. I guarantee, without a doubt, that the failed tires will go away and it won't be because he just decided to enter more shallow than he has for his entire career. Wouldn't he be blowing tires every week in the Cup side if this was the reason he's blowing tires in Nationwide? 39. Watto posted: 03.20.2011 - 12:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Damn, Kyle Busch is good. The haters can say all they want to try and devalue his accomplishments but 89 wins in Nascar's top three series as a 25 year old is nothing short of remarkable and he deserves all the credit he gets from the media." Oh, he's very good. He just won't ever be considered the best driver in NASCAR until he can put up the best numbers in Cup. Most people are frustrated that his wins in 3 series get compared to drivers who achieved most of their wins in the Cup Series alone without intruding upon the easier competition with phenomenal race cars. The media touts him as pretty much the class of the field, but come Sunday, Jimmie Johnson has had his number in every single year they've competed against each other. 40. rog24 posted: 03.20.2011 - 12:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Hmmm so I guess Jeff Gordon was wrong. Jeff must not know how to drive... I think I'd listen to Jeff more than you. I don't really get angry, but you have managed to. Congratulations." Cooper, I don't know if you have reading comprehension problems or what, but I never said overdriving the corner was the way to make it happen. I'm not disagreeing with Jeff in the first place, and I would never say he doesn't know how to drive, so you're not listening to him over me whatsoever. You're arguing a point that I didn't even begin arguing in the first place. My point has been that all these blown tires are not because he needs to just back up his corner entry. It was widely reported at Vegas what was going on with the 22 car, apparently you missed all the reports. 41. rog24 posted: 03.20.2011 - 12:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) im sorry for my last reply btw, because apparently that's what you said before I explained myself. My bad on that. I agree, debating nonsense is stressful and unneeded, and I should've responded my in a much more professional way to start. You have yourself a good weekend as well. 42. Anonymous posted: 03.20.2011 - 4:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "How about just banning them from those series entirely? Doesn't F1 do the same thing with their lower tier series, so that the elite drivers won't predictably and boringly stink up the show in the lower tier series?" I'm pretty sure that no one bans drivers from competing in lower series because they don't need to....everywhere else around the world, no one would ever dream of competing in a lower series, because why on earth would you want to? It's an American thing... 43. 18fan posted: 03.20.2011 - 4:26 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) More Kyle Busch "history" for ESPN. Why do all "historic" events seem to happen on ESPN so they can blow "history" out of proportion. 44. The Real Thomas posted: 03.20.2011 - 4:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Oh, he's very good. He just won't ever be considered the best driver in NASCAR until he can put up the best numbers in Cup. Most people are frustrated that his wins in 3 series get compared to drivers who achieved most of their wins in the Cup Series alone without intruding upon the easier competition with phenomenal race cars. The media touts him as pretty much the class of the field, but come Sunday, Jimmie Johnson has had his number in every single year they've competed against each other." - Watto Bingo! We have a winner! And I don't even like Jimmie Johnson. "More Kyle Busch "history" for ESPN. Why do all "historic" events seem to happen on ESPN so they can blow "history" out of proportion?" - 18fan Probably because most of his so-called history takes place when he's mutilating the Nationwide Series, which ESPN has the rights to. He doesn't run as well in Cup, and doesn't run as many truck races, and even when he does, it doesn't seem like SPEED exaggerates his success as much as ESPN does. 45. b4il3y posted: 03.20.2011 - 6:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch...GTFO my Busch Series... if you can win in cup then your a joke. Seriously. Don't care if big E and others ran in it...they didnt have to pad their ego. They could win in top series. It would be different if you weren't a shithead... 46. Greg G posted: 03.20.2011 - 9:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sombody out there please give Jennifer Jo a chance to race for a top team. (Are you reading this Kelley) If she could have the same cars that DP gets she could show every body that she can drive a racecar. Winning in late models at the Snowball derby is not a fluke.. She could win in Trucks or Nationwide with a good car. You go JJC. 47. DaleSrFanForever posted: 03.20.2011 - 10:49 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Watto, you nailed it. Yes, Kyle is extremely talented, and 19 Cup wins in 6 seasons is nothing to sneeze at. But he is so far behind JJ in Cup it is ridiculous. And I know he might be "only" 25 (although he acts about 20 years younger), but when JJ entered the Cup Series in '02, he'd only been driving stock cars since '97 when he started in ASA (famously spinning out and hitting the inflatable Michelin Man once, and also spinning out 8 times in one race, breaking Dale Earnhardt's World Record For Spinning Out he set in the 1990 Watkins Glen race), and had two full time seasons in underfunded Busch equipment before jumping to the #48 car. Coming in to '02, he had all of 5 years of stock car experience. He won 3 Cup races that year, finished 5th in points, and got hosed for Rookie of the Year (when Ryan Newman looks at his '02 ROY trophy, I wonder what goes through his mind). Kyle, on the other hand, was racing in the Truck Series at 16 years old before NASCAR made the age limit. He spent a year in ASA (like JJ) then signed with HMS. They put him in many ARCA races until his 18th birthday when he immediately got to race HMS Busch cars while continuing to run in HMS funded ARCA and Truck races. He got a full time Busch ride in '04 while running 7 Cup races before making the jump to Cup in '05, winning twice but only finishing 20th in points. And let's not forget, he spent most of his youth racing legend cars and Late Models, while JJ spent his youth dirt bike racing, then racing desert trucks either in the desert (where he famously fell asleep in the middle of a race and crashed, I'm sure no alcohol was involved in that one) or on closed course dirt tracks with jumps and bumps. Who do you think had an easier transition? And if anyone still wants to play the age card, look at Jeff Gordon. By the time he was Kyle's age (25, about to turn 26) he already had a Winston Cup championship, a 10 win season, a Daytona 500 win, and was on his way to another Winston Cup, setting off the greatest two year run in modern NASCAR history ('97 and '98). And he didn't even sit in a race car with fenders until he was 19. So yes, Kyle Busch is mega talented, and deserves accolades for his accomplishments (in Cup). But as far as being "historically great", we can't go there. That may come in the future if he ever gets his head on straight, but that appears to be a ways off in the future. "I disagree, you can't attribute his success in Nationwide and Trucks purely to having superior cars than anyone else. In Nationwide he dominates every race he's in and is always a threat to win. His relief driver for standalone races, Coleman, doesn't come close to doing that. His new teammate this year, Brian Scott never sniffs the lead despite having last year's #20 team." Fair point, here is my rebuttal: First of all, I'm not totally sold on Coleman and Scott. I'm not trying to say just anybody could step in those cars and do well, I just pointed out that Joey Logano, a driver with much less talent than Kyle, steps in the same equipment, wins tons of poles, runs up front all the time, wins races and easily runs in the Top 5 in NWide. In Cup, with the exception of a very impressive late season streak last year, has struggled with a championship team. Hell, even Kyle's Cup numbers, although impressive, pale next to his NWide numbers. In JGRs NWide stuff, he has shattered every record in a short amount of time. In Cup? He gets shattered by JJ. So, to me, that shows his NWide stuff is blatently superior. Yes, he is extremely talented. But in HMS' Busch stuff from '04 to '07, a team that put pretty much all of their focus on Cup (imagine that), he was like he is in Cup now. Good, getting his share of wins, but being blown away by drivers like Harvick, Edwards, Biffle, Kenseth, and Truex. "Likewise, Kyle won 7 races in 2009 driving for the #51 team on a part time basis, while Aric last year had a great season but only 2 wins overall, and didn't challenge for them often." True. But although I like Aric and am rooting for him to succeed, it looks like he doesn't have top level talent. I hope I'm wrong. But when he put Kasey Kahne in his Truck at Darlington, a driver that has top level talent, it looked just like a Kyle Busch lower Series race: Nobody could touch him. Another thing: by '09 Kyle had driven for Billy Ballew and Ritchie Waters for quite a few years (since '05 if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong). They had good chemistry. '10 was Aric's first year with them. Again, I don't want to try to downplay Kyle's ability. He is very talented and undoubtably deserves the "winner" tag. I just feel people think he is all time great due to his lower level success. First of all, he has all these years of experience racing against the best of the best in Cup for 3 to 4 hours at time 38 times a year. His skills are very well refined while most of his lower level competition haven't had that chance. Secondly, his competition level is a lot weaker in the lower Series. JJ and Gordon never run NWide races. Smoke only runs the February Daytona NWide race, and always beats Kyle. Kenseth and Biffle have had their NWide schedules cut way back due to sponsorship issues. And the Truck Series is pretty much just Harvick. He doesn't have to face the majority of the big dogs in those Series. 48. DaleSrFanForever posted: 03.20.2011 - 10:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jennifer Jo's owner's comments: "We already had our entry in for here. We were coming up here to be very conservative, qualify for the race, make a few laps to get our start money and park the car so we could go on to California where we could race. That was all well and good until mid-afternoon when the crew chief (Steve Kuykendall) told me they'd bought tires and they had hired a pit crew. I didn't bring my pit crew with me because we werenâ??t going to pit stop. I said, 'Where did you get that idea? Weâ??re not pitting.' And he said, 'Well, we already bought tires.' I said, 'I didnâ??t tell you to buy tires. This is my car. Iâ??m telling you what we're going to do.' Well, they took it on themselves to think they were running the show and Jennifer was making the calls. And on pit road, I informed her that she wasnâ??t making the calls, that I owned this team. So she took her crew and left five minutes before start time." Yeah! This is my team! I am the boss! And if I say we are going to make a mockery of the NASCAR system, even if steps have been made to let us enter this race and actually, imagine this, RACE, then goddamnit we are going to make a mockery of the system!! Because I said so. Racing? Hah! We are here to be a joke. Period! Cause I said so! 49. martin-n-rusty posted: 03.20.2011 - 11:42 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) After yesterday, I have gained a boatload of respect for Jennifer Jo Cobb. I think it's about time something is done to the start and parkers. Allow up to 43 cars, but if you don't plan on running the entire show, get out so someone else can. 50. 18fan posted: 03.20.2011 - 2:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle's been my favorite driver for almost his whole Cup career and I think he needs to get out of the lower series. To your point on Jimmie and Jeff vs. Kyle DSFF, I think Jimmie and Jeff are more the exception than the norm in terms of career path, so I think Kyle is slightly ahead of most top line drivers have been in the same time. 51. ShavedBusch posted: 03.20.2011 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "18. ShavedBusch posted: 03.19.11 - 6:35 pm WTG Kyle! 5-in-a-row tomorrow, book it, done. " CALLED IT YESTERDAY, BOOYAH! 52. Mike C posted: 03.20.2011 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 12. Corn off the Cobb posted: 03.19.11 - 5:32 pm It sounds like Cobb went menstrual and planned to sabotage Rick Russell after he made his intentions known that the #79 was to start and park on Friday evening. This was a set-up to make Russell look like a buffoon, and it worked. I just hope that fans, owners, and sponsors will see how vindictive that Cobb was for this sabotage. She should have withdrawn on Friday, not moments before the race was set to begin. Cobb used this to her advantage to draw media attention and support from the fans. Genius! I think you nailed it, but we're in the minority of this opinion right now. I'm not a fan of start-and-park either, but it's within the rules to do so. 53. beau posted: 03.20.2011 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) boooooooooring. 54. Frank posted: 03.20.2011 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My good friend is about to loose his mind watching buschwhackers "steal the show" in his favorite series. But honestly I can't imagine what's the problem. It there were 1-3 Cup drivers who faster NNS regulars by far - that would be shame. But usually we have 5-7 and more guys who deliver us good action. Even in this race Kasey had something to Kyle if it'd be GWC or late caution. And for young drivers there is good chance to know how good Cup drivers is and try to learn from them. Extreme example to my point happens on road courses where driver's ability means more - last year at Elkhart Lake it looked like just a few people knew what is braking. On the contrast at the Glen where it've been more whackers we saw really good racing all the way. 55. Corn off the Cobb posted: 03.20.2011 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @Mike C #52 - Absolutely! If the average fan only knew some of the sick stuff that Cobb has tried in order to get a sponsor or a ride, they'd quickly understand that this was a planned set up. It's all about who you can crawl over on your way to the top, just ask Rick Crawford. That poor man has Cobb's footprints all over his back! 56. Watto posted: 03.20.2011 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Feel free to elaborate. Didn't Rick sell her all that stuff? What has she done that's morally reprehensible and who are your sources? 57. irony posted: 03.20.2011 - 10:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) When did Jenn Jo win the Snowball Derby? Tammy Jo Kirk won the Snowball Derby and didn't do much in good equipment in Trucks. I think every female driver ever has been mentioned as "if she only had the same chance as Danica!!!" I wish Johanna Long would of had more races with Billy Ballew but oh well. 58. martin-n-rusty posted: 03.21.2011 - 5:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Corn on the Cobb is full of crap, a troll, or both 59. Talon64 posted: 03.21.2011 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch wins his 45th career Nationwide race, moving back within 4 races of Mark Martin for the all time series lead. This is only Kasey Kahne's 5th career runner-up finish in Nationwide; 12 top 2 finishes in 166 starts. Kahne has exactly 1 top five in each of the last 4 seasons (25 starts). Elliott Sadler gets his first top 10 of the season, his 20th career top five in 134 starts. Joey Logano gets his first top five in his last 5 Nationwide starts dating back to last season. Carl Edwards has only 1 top five in the first 4 races of 2011. Jason Leffler's the only driver to finish 11th or better in each of the first 4 races of the season. He needs 3 more top tens to reach 100 for his career. Aric Almirola gets his first top ten of the season, and 2nd straight finish of 10th at Bristol; interestingly enough he has a better Cup finish at Bristol, 8th in 2008. Steve Wallace gets his best finish to date in 2011 but hasn't had a top ten in his last 5 starts dating back to last season. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. won his 2nd career Nationwide pole (Iowa 2009); Stenhouse has led the most laps of any regular this season, the 28 laps he led in this race. But that's good enough to be tied for 4th since Kyle Busch has led 569 of 820 laps run this season. Since Jennifer Jo Cobb refused to race due to Chance 2 Motorsports' S&P status, Timmy Hill was the only rookie in the race; he finished 29th. Ironically enough they'll be teammates at California after JJC signed up with Rick Ware Racing. 60. Rusty posted: 03.21.2011 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch dominated Phoenix, was dominating Las Vegas before his own stupidity put him in the garage, and dominated Bristol. He's dominated every non RP race in the Nationwide series this season. He seriously may have a shot at getting near 20 wins on the season, his stupidity will cost him a few and he's only running around 25 races or so, but when he races on a normal track, he's just faster than everyone. NASCAR didn't fix the NWide series at all this offseason, they just made a new problem. It would be embarassing if the Nationwide champion ends up winless. 61. Watto posted: 03.22.2011 - 3:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Kyle Busch dominated Phoenix, was dominating Las Vegas before his own stupidity put him in the garage, and dominated Bristol. He's dominated every non RP race in the Nationwide series this season." It seems like it's been that way since 2008. The vast majority of the time, he's been the car to beat. It's crazy to think about, but the stats pretty much confirm it. For a while they had a noticeable horsepower advantage that was confirmed by dyno tests, but I'm not sure how that stands now. There's something to be said for Gibbs' Nationwide program. Switching to Toyota turned up the wick 1000%. Heck, Tony Stewart won 5 out of his 9 races with Gibbs in 2008. 62. Talon64 posted: 03.22.2011 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Since switching to Toyota for 2008, JGR has won 51 of 109 Nationwide races for a 46.8 winning percentage. And JGR's led 9,961 of 20,439 laps run (48.7%). Kyle Busch accounts for 34 wins and 7429 laps led. 63. DaleSrFanForever posted: 03.22.2011 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks for the numbers Talon. I knew JGR has just had 'em covered in this Series, and I wondered what the numbers were. They are staggering. Seems like they'd put all that money, manpower, and resources towards Cup. 64. DaleSrFanForever posted: 03.22.2011 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I think Corn on the Cobb is full of crap, a troll, or both" He probably met Jennifer Jo once, tried to get her to sleep with him, failed, and is trashing now in retaliation. 65. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 03.22.2011 - 11:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "He probably met Jennifer Jo once, tried to get her to sleep with him, failed, and is trashing now in retaliation." I was going to stay out of that little "argument" because CotC is obviously making troll posts, but LOL! That's hilarious. 66. Anonymous posted: 03.23.2011 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Eric McClure raced with a broken bone in his right hand. To add to the start & park discussion, Kelly Bires raced for 30-35 seconds since he ran 2 laps and that should have been around 15-16 seconds per lap. That's ridiculous that his team made over 16,000 dollars for racing less than a minute and barely running over a mile. Like others have said though, there's nothing against it in the rules. 67. 18fan posted: 03.24.2011 - 12:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The JGR domination of this series is why I don't watch it, even though my favorite driver is dominating the series. I wish it was the Cup series he was dominating instead. 68. 00andJoe posted: 08.30.2011 - 1:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #41 sponsor for this race and Auto Club Speedway race should be "GreetingExpress" - the .com part did not appear on the car. 69. 1995z71 posted: 04.22.2012 - 11:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Don't be fooled Corn off the Cobb is just Rick Russell in disguise. 70. Daniel posted: 05.21.2012 - 12:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In using fastest 36: #03 Chris Lawson Out using fastest 36: #81 Blake Koch 71. Daniel posted: 05.21.2012 - 12:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Previous post: fastest 43 instead of 36 72. BJ posted: 12.13.2012 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I lost all respect for Jennifer Jo Cobb after this race. She made such a big deal about not wanting to start and park when what she should have done was just swallow her pride and park after a few laps. There is nothing wrong with starting and parking, it's within the rules of NASCAR so it's not like these guys and girls are doing anything wrong. 73. Dylan posted: 09.02.2014 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jennifer Jo Cobb becomes the first driver to refuse to start and park in this race. 74. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 03.13.2016 - 2:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Withdrew: WD|Kevin Lepage|24|RaceDaySponsor.com|Ed Rensi|Ford 75. Chap904 posted: 04.08.2018 - 12:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) ADMIN: Driver Change Jennifer Jo Cobb #79 76. JSPorts posted: 04.24.2018 - 12:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jennifer Jo Cobb should be listed in the 79 with a driver change. She stepped out of the car prior to the race's start. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: