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  1.   Darrell posted:
  05.10.2008 - 9:03 am
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Denny Hamlin DNQs. Whodathunkit.

Especially when he said later his team didn't know it was out of the
top-30. Seriously, how do you not notice? You're a part-time team!

First career Nationwide start for Terry Cook. I like the guy, but why
did he have to park it? Oh wait, it's MSRP Motorsports.


  2.   tonyfan posted:
  05.10.2008 - 9:30 am
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Smoke finally gets a win at the track too tough to tame.


  3.   Rusty posted:
  05.10.2008 - 10:43 am
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Another top 5 for Steve Wallace.


  4.   WallaceFan posted:
  05.10.2008 - 10:47 am
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All Steve needed was 1 top 10 to get him jump started.
back to back 5th place finishes for him , and back to back 6th place
finishes for stremme. Great Race.

Edwards brushed the wall on lap 1, blew a tire on lap 3 and he was done.

Big wreck at the end when Marks car didnt pick up his fuel, Leffler got
into the back of him..Bires, Bliss, Mike Wallace also involved.

Overall very exciting race, great new surface..same old Darlington!

Great runs for Hornish, Chase Miller, Keller, Stremme, and of
course...STEVE WALLACE. The wins will come.


  5.   WallaceFan posted:
  05.10.2008 - 10:49 am
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Dont think I forgot my man Sheppy!
All Morgan Shepherd needs is tires to complete a full race.
Great 16th place run...3straight races completed..I cant imagine if this
guy could drive for Hendrick.

Great run for Morgan, and more to come im sure.


  6.   arse posted:
  05.10.2008 - 10:56 am
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If Cook did not park it, the motor would of been cooked.


  7.   samfan08 posted:
  05.10.2008 - 11:12 am
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First career top 10 for Chase Miller. 2nd straight top 5 for Steve Wallace.
Highest finish in NASCAR for Sam Hornish(11th).
Great run for Todd Bodine in his first Nationwide race for Germain(4th).
Tough breaks for Mike Bliss, Mike Wallace, and Kelly Bires, who were all
running in the top 10 when the big wreck happened on lap 144.


  8.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.10.2008 - 12:16 pm
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Steve Wallace 2008 crash count: 5


  9.   WallaceFan posted:
  05.10.2008 - 3:26 pm
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SrFan? What are you talking about? Steve has been in 3 accidents this
year..Daytona (spun by Keselowski) Vegas (wrecked while in top 10) and
Dega (the big one while he was in the top 5) You say 5, how bout this,
give him so credit for his great run. Hes a great young driver, but he
has alot of pressure on him. So give him a break and the wins will soon
come.


  10.   The Real Thomas posted:
  05.10.2008 - 7:45 pm
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I was just thinking; it really is crazy to think that Morgan Shepherd
could finish in 16th with zero funding and crappy equipment. All he
needed was tires. He finished ahead of Ganassi and Childress cars for
Christ's sake (no pun intended)!


  11.   Ambrose_fan posted:
  05.11.2008 - 1:05 am
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Great run for Marcos Ambrose. And I agree that Steven Wallace really is
maturing fast, in the same way that David Ragan is doing in the Sprint Cup.


  12.   3_88fan4eva_Zed posted:
  05.11.2008 - 1:50 am
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The Ageless wonder!!! I cant wait until they hit that stretch when the
Busch Wackers wont be around. I so wish Morgan could land a ride with a
multi million dollar team. This is 3 straight races hes finished in top
25 and he also ran great in Phoenix. I think he'll get a top 10 sooner
or later. Also 4wheel chicain gets another Top 5


  13.   Anonymous posted:
  05.11.2008 - 5:25 am
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Kyle Busch crash count: 6

Moral of the story: shut up about Steve Wallace.


  14.   Baker posted:
  05.11.2008 - 5:06 pm
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Tony Stewart is knocking them down one by one. Only Las Vegas stands in
his way now. Hell, someone should put him in a Truck for the Vegas race
later on this season. If not he'll be kicking down the Vegas obstacle
next spring in the Cup series as part of his season opening 3 race win
streak(Daytona 500, Cali and Vegas)


  15.   Willy on Wheels posted:
  05.11.2008 - 7:46 pm
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What bothers me is that Germain Racing uses the "03" on their Toyotas.
In very similar font as Dale's old #3. It just bugs me. I just found my
new least favorite drivers, Todd Bodine and Chrissy Wallace as well as
anyone who might apply a "3" to a Ford, Dodge, or Toyota in the near
future.


  16.   samfan08 posted:
  05.11.2008 - 8:26 pm
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I guess if you want to count the contact with Kyle Busch then you could
say Steve's had 4 incidents. But like it's been said before, only 1 of
his 3 wrecks were his fault, and at least then he only took himself out.

Last year by now he probably caused 10 wrecks and all took out multiple
drivers. Give him the rest of the year and I'll bet he stays close to
the top 10, matures even more, and might get a win.


  17.   WillG_46 posted:
  05.11.2008 - 8:37 pm
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The reason Morgan will never get a shot with a big team is because he is
66 years old. He may be competitive and keeps his car clean, but he's
not marketable, and that's all that matters anymore.


  18.   Dodge posted:
  05.11.2008 - 9:18 pm
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Tony Stewart is knocking them down one by one. Only Las Vegas stands in
his way now. Hell, someone should put him in a Truck for the Vegas race
later on this season. If not he'll be kicking down the Vegas obstacle
next spring in the Cup series as part of his season opening 3 race win
streak(Daytona 500, Cali and Vegas)

Right, and Dave Blaney will win the season finale and Casey Mears and
Jr. will tie for the championship. Everyone knows that Tony starts
heating up from June on.


  19.   Baker posted:
  05.12.2008 - 11:59 am
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Dodge, Its called luck. In 2007 he was running good enough to win 6 of
the first 8 races. Easily the most dominate car at Bristol before that
garbage oil pump cable incident. Just like this year; best car at
Daytona, fastest at the end at Atlanta, most dominate car at Bristol
until that last caution that put him in a lose-lose pit or no pit
situation, and then Talladega. Hell if it weren't for Elliott Sadler's
half ass talent Tony Stewart would have been running Top 10 with a
chance to adjust it better at Darlington too.


  20.   Patrick posted:
  05.12.2008 - 2:28 pm
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great top 20 finish for D.J. Kennington WTG DJ.


  21.   hyltonfan58 posted:
  05.12.2008 - 2:58 pm
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Yet another fantastic run for Morgan Shepherd. This guy is a legined in
our sport, and he's still going strong today.

However, it is true that becuase of his age he won't get major
sponsorship (well, that and he gives up valuable advertising space by
putting a giant Jesus decal on the hood).

However, I think his car would be a great marketing opportunity for the
Rascal Scooter Co., LifeAlert, or Depends.


  22.   Dodge posted:
  05.12.2008 - 5:16 pm
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Hell if it weren't for Elliott Sadler's half ass talent Tony Stewart
would have been running Top 10 with a chance to adjust it better at
Darlington too.

What a surprise, Baker. You amaze me. It was two laps in and Tony was
slip-sliding back so Sadler went to go past and Tony did not give him
enough room so Sadler got on the DAMN apron and got loose. Hey, Baker,
are you saying you are perfect because Elliott Sadler is a human and he
IS NOT perfect, he makes mistakes and he apologized for it.If you want
to talk about half ass talent, why not talk about Regan Smith or the one
that will always have a ride because his daddy owns his own stores. I
mean Paul Menard who I call "My Daddy is a multi-millionare so I always
will have a ride even if I can't drive worth a damn."


  23.   Dodge posted:
  05.12.2008 - 5:18 pm
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Also the reason why Tony has had a great start to the Nationwide Series
is that Gibbs has the BEST team in Nationwide Series. However on the Cup
side, his team are slow starters.


  24.   Willy on Wheels posted:
  05.13.2008 - 9:29 am
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Denny Hamlin won at Richmond, then DNQed the next race. When was the
last time that happened in any series?


  25.   Baker posted:
  05.13.2008 - 9:02 pm
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Dodge, it's obvious to me you're a teenage wanna be Nascar fan who has
not seen enough racing to have any sort of a clue, so I am don't talking
with you period. Regan Smith, David Ragan, Brian Vickers ect. All these
guys you and other have been bashing as having no talent are all under
25. Do you have any idea where some of the most legandary drivers in
this sport where at 25??? Bobby Allison no full time ride until 28,
Darrell Waltrip 28 as well, Same with Big E, Cale was 26, Rusty Wallace
was 27, Awesome Bill was 27, Mark Martin start out with only 4 Top 5's
in 57 races. David Ragan now has 4 at a younger age in only 49 races.
Dale Jarrett was 32 before he ever scored a Top 5.

Stop dogging the Young guys, and then defending the guys who have been
around more than enough races to know how to produce results and wheel a
car, but still cannot do it.


  26.   Dodge posted:
  05.14.2008 - 12:20 pm
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For your knowledge, Baker, I do my own stats. Also, where did I say I
was a wannabe teenage fan. I am a huge fan since 1995. I have gone to a
handful of races,(Loudon 2 times and Pocono once. Plus other times I
went for practice and qualifying at Loudon. I would love to work on a
team. For you to attack me, it shows that you are a jerk. Elliott Sadler
is a better driver than Regan Smith EVER WILL BE. If you look at my
posts I have NEVER EVER bad mouthed Vickers or Ragan or most of the
other young guys like most people. AT one point I did badmoth Steve
Wallace but I have been impressed with him recently. Also, I am a fan of
another young driver, Kahne. So before you badmouth me, know where I am
coming from.
For all of those drivers that you mentioned, yes they may not have
started so promising but they kept working. That was then, when there
weren't companies paying millions and millions to be sponsoring a car.
Maybe a couple hundred thousand per year. Nowaday's you won't see as
much patience because the only way teams can survive is that you need
sponsors and you can't get sponsors when you have a driver that can't
drive competitively with the greats.

I didn't want to make it personal, Baker. All that I meant in my
prevoius post is that you are badmouthing people who do so much for the
sport but when there are drivers like Menard and Smith, you defend them.
YOU, BAKER MADE IT PERSONAL. I hope that we can get along. If you took
it personal from my post, I wasn't going for that and I'm sorry.


  27.   Willy on Wheels posted:
  05.14.2008 - 9:07 pm
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Baker, by the time Jeff Gordon was 25, he had 29 wins and 2 Cups.
Richard Petty turned 25 with 13 wins and two runner-up point finishes.
Kyle Busch, our current points leader is only 23. Ragan and Vickers are
performing pretty good for their age and lack of experience, but Smith,
he needs some more time in midget cars.


  28.   Dodge posted:
  05.14.2008 - 9:21 pm
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Finally, someone agrees with me about Regan Smith not ready for Cup.
Thank you Willy on Wheels!!!


  29.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.15.2008 - 3:37 pm
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1- Daytona pre season testing, he crashed in the garage area (I've got
to count that one due to the pure bone headedness of it)

2- Daytona 300

3- Las Vegas race running alone

4- Talladega big one

5- Darlington practice running alone

Yes he is doing better on race day, but he is still tearing up equipment
at an extremely rapid pace. He has not improved in that area like he
should've. Anyone else would've been canned ages ago, but they went and
hired one of the best Busch Series crew chiefs ever, Harold Holly. He
doesn't deserve Harold.

And I agree about Kyle Busch. He has no respect for his equipment or
anyone else's.


  30.   Baker posted:
  05.16.2008 - 1:19 pm
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Bad mouthing Elliott Sadler means I'm bad mouthing someone who has done
so much for this sport??? hahaha the guy lucked into a win of strategy,
not driving talent, then all the sudden he is a big name goes to Yates
racing and brings them down(notice better results with lesser names?)
and then he comes to Evernham and is far from competitive. Elliott
Sadler hasn't done anything for this sport but fill another seat. That
is all he is is a field filler. A race has 43 openings, so some not so
talented drivers(from a pro level) are going to get into the field and
ultimately end up wrecking true talents like Tony Stewart, or Jeff
Gordon(Tony Raines), Kurt Busch, Matt Kenseth, Carl Edwards, Jeff
Burton, Kevin Harvick have all been in accidents that would have been
avoided had those lesser talented drivers been able to handle their cars
better.


  31.   Dodge posted:
  05.16.2008 - 8:00 pm
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That's your opinion. You know what they say about opinions.

By the way Baker, I thought you said you weren't going to read what I type?


  32.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.16.2008 - 10:33 pm
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I have mixed feelings about Sadler's driving ability. First of all he is
a great guy and I hope he does well. But yeah, his results just aren't
there. But let's look at the organizations he was with:

Wood Brothers: He wasn't competitive there, but who has been in the last
20 years? Drivers like Neil Bonnett, Morgan Shepard, Ricky Rudd and Bill
Elliott couldn't even get anything out of their stuff.

Yates: He was good for a little bit, he even outperformed Dale Jarrett,
but they fell in the crapper in a hurry. That slide continued until they
have recently been unofficially bought by Jack Roush. Now, without
sponsors, they are running better than they have in years. Hmmmm.

Evernham: Can you say S***Storm!! That whole organization took one of
the most stunning nosedives I have seen, including Kasey Kahne.

So yeah, on paper Elliott's career has been mediocre at best (that is
being very kind), but he might could do well in good stuff.


  33.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.21.2008 - 3:27 pm
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By the way, I am aware Bonnett had a lot of success with the Wood
Brothers in the early 80's. I am referring to his secong run with them
which ended with his awful head injury. The fact is that they have had 5
wins since 1985, and Elliott has one of them. So maybe?


  34.   DaleJrFan16 posted:
  05.21.2008 - 5:14 pm
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Man, Jesus is totally on Sheppy's side! YAY SHEPPY!


  35.   JT posted:
  06.10.2008 - 11:38 pm
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Believe it or not, Nationwide Series debut for Terry Cook.


  36.   Anonymous posted:
  08.22.2008 - 8:01 pm
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why do the MSRP Motorsports cars park early in the race


  37.   Willy on Wheels posted:
  09.06.2008 - 7:08 pm
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because MSRP Motorsports sucks!


In reality, it is because they run a few laps in a junk car hardly
putting any efort (or money) into it, and collecting their 30,000$ for
starting the race.


  38.   The Great Dave posted:
  03.02.2009 - 11:11 am
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DJ Kennington's sponsor was MC2 Energy Drink/University of Illinois/UNLV
Law


  39.   RaceFanX posted:
  09.24.2010 - 6:37 pm
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Mark Martin's first race with GoDaddy.com as his sponsor, he'd later
drive a #5 for GoDaddy in the Cup series starting in 2010.


  40.   RaceFanX posted:
  09.24.2012 - 11:46 pm
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Todd Bodine picks up a top-5 doing a one-off with his Truck series
Germain team. The top-5 was Bodine's 90th and to date last in the
series, he's mainly focused exclusively on the Truck series since. It
was his first Busch top-5 since Homestead back in 2004.


  41.   CBASS posted:
  01.25.2013 - 6:55 am
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  42.   Anonymous posted:
  08.03.2013 - 7:44 am
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Why did Hamlin DNQ? Did it fail qualifying inspection?


  43.   ericthenau posted:
  08.19.2013 - 9:25 pm
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Anonymous, Denny Hamlin crashed during his qualifying lap for this race
and didn't make the field because of his #18 team only running a limited
schedule in the season.


  44.   Maverick11 posted:
  04.15.2016 - 11:54 pm
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Edwards wins the pole, crashes on lap 4 and finishes last.


  45.   Jimmie Jameson posted:
  12.15.2016 - 1:40 pm
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lucky dogs

caution 1: none
caution 2: none
caution 3: #66
caution 4: #47
caution 5: #11
caution 6: #9
caution 7: none
caution 8: none


  46.   Anthony posted:
  02.08.2019 - 12:50 am
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You would never see a Cup driver fail to qualify in a second series race
anymore


  47.   GoPM21 posted:
  02.08.2019 - 2:09 am
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@46
Sure you could. Just not for the reason you think.


  48.   Mannoroth posted:
  02.08.2019 - 7:33 am
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46. & 47. It's definitely really surprising that someone like JGR's
powerful #18 failed to qualify in 2008. I thought they had enough points
from previous seasons to always make it, because that car was a
full-time car from 2005 till 2007 owned by the same team.

Anyway, you can still DNQ - bring a brand new car that doesn't have any
points and if you fail to qualify on time, you're out. There are no
charters in lower series. Or it can be raining all weekend and when
there's no qualification, you're out as well, if you don't have enough
points to make it.


  49.   possum posted:
  02.08.2019 - 7:07 pm
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@48 - previous season points only counted for the first 5 races. By
Darlington provisionals were based on current season points.

Still, it is mysterious that Hamlin DNQ - both the #18 and #20 cars had
had several wins and top-10s by that point of the season, and should
have been above 30th in points. I suspect the team simply chose to
withdraw after the qualifying wreck.


  50.   TooSmartForThis posted:
  02.08.2019 - 7:54 pm
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In order to be locked in a team had to have made a qualifying attempt
for every race. The 18 was a part time team.


  51.   Corey posted:
  02.08.2019 - 8:33 pm
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@49 I just watched a clip of it on YouTube and the team didn't withdraw.
He simply wasn't going to be able to complete a lap with the damage to
the car.

And think about it. Why would he #18 Gibbs team withdraw after a
qualifying wreck. They would have just pulled out the back-up car.


  52.   Mannoroth posted:
  02.09.2019 - 1:53 am
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Maybe Denny Hamlin decided he doesn't want to race? Which is weird,
because he won 2 previous Darlington races and nowadays, it's basically
the only track, where he wants to race so much and win.


  53.   rm posted:
  02.09.2019 - 7:36 am
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The top 30 were locked in on owner's points and the 18 was outside the
top 30. With 45 cars attempting to qualify, the two slowest cars from
outside the top 30 were going to go home. And since Hamlin put up no
time due to his qualifying crash, he was one of the two that DNQ'd.
That's it. That's the extent of the story.


  54.   Mannoroth posted:
  02.09.2019 - 11:37 am
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53. Interesting. I would think that 2 wins, one 2nd place finish, a 16th
place and one 31st place (all scored by Kyle Busch) are enough to beat
some really poor cars. And it wasn't...

By the way, why wasn't #18 running full-time in 2008 like in previous
years? I know that Kyle Busch and Denny Hamlin had their driving duties
in other teams (Todd Braun Racing, D'Hondt Motorsports), but both of
them with Tony Stewart and other drivers could entry every race. I guess
running one special car (#20) by all the JGR Cup stars plus Joey Logano
for the Owners' title was really important...


  55.   Corey posted:
  02.09.2019 - 2:02 pm
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It would have had Hamlin not hit the wall in qualifying. But this race
was right after a re-pave and there were a lot of accidents that
weekend. Mark Martin had to go to a back up car in this race after
crashing in final practice and Carl Edwards wrecked out after hitting
the wall on the opening lap.


  56.   possum posted:
  02.09.2019 - 8:03 pm
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@54 - I would have thought the same thing. And back in the old days of a
month ago, we could have just gone to Jayski to see. Unfortunately, ESPN
hasn't had the courtesy to keep the old Jayski pages up. Fortunately,
they're archived at the Wayback Machine (and someone here at RR might
want to go grab them and make them available here, actually, since they
give race-by-race point standings).

Anyway, from all that it turns out that the #18 was 33rd in points -
having only started 5 races at that point, even tho 2 of them were wins.
For whatever reason it seems the #32 was the full-time team that year.

@55 - accidents there may have been, but they didn't prevent anyone else
qualifying. Only one car claimed a starting spot on points.


  57.   Corey posted:
  02.09.2019 - 10:04 pm
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@56 I never said anything about accidents preventing anyone from
qualifying. I don't know where you got that idea.


  58.   Mannoroth posted:
  02.10.2019 - 12:38 am
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56. That's probably it.


  59.   Yeet posted:
  03.17.2019 - 11:48 pm
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Just rewatched the qualifying session for this race and the qualifying
session for the 2008 Sam's Town 300, man this is how qualifying should
be in my opinion

It was awesome to see the knockout rounds following the Top 30, where
cars knew they had to make the show by outpacing one another, no
"provisional" gimmicks which sends faster cars home over slower ones
like today, and we still had drama with the single car runs, where the
drivers had to strategize how fast they could go to make the show
without wrecking, and how the top rides like Sam Hornish Jr and Denny
Hamlin stepped over the line and failed to qualify, adding to the
intensity of the sessions

This is how qualifying should still be like, where cars would have to
outpace one another to make the show, and not the ridiculous owner
points system that requires top 33 or 27 for select entries, qualifying
should determine who the fastest cars are, and the fastest 38 or 33 in
qualifying earn a right to race


  60.   Yeet posted:
  03.17.2019 - 11:49 pm
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*32


  61.   Yeet posted:
  06.14.2019 - 10:58 pm
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Denny Hamlin's only DNQ across NASCAR's 3 top series


  62.   Rich posted:
  08.10.2020 - 3:22 pm
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Dr. Jerry Punch, Andy Petree and Rusty Wallace were the commentators.
Dave Burns, Shannon Spake, Jamie Little and Mike Massaro were the pit
road reporters. Tim Brewer was at the Chevy cut-away car. Allen Bestwick
and Brad Daugherty were in the ESPN pit studio.


  63.   RaceFanX posted:
  09.08.2020 - 3:25 pm
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Hamlin only needed to run a 45-second lap to get into the race but went
for glory and lost it all instead. He got the green flag and zoomed into
Turn 1 with a time that would have got him the pole only to loose it,
pound the wall, and kill the #18 Toyota to the point he couldn't finish
the lap. He was the fastest car in practice and he failed to qualify.
One man's trash is another man's treasure though, Hamlin's wipeout
assured Mike Harmon got in the race...where his Cracker Barrel #84
promptly retired early on.


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